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afro88 4 days ago

> The question is whether someone who can't program at all can make something that works well with LLMs

Is that where the goalposts are now?

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stavros 4 days ago | parent [-]

No, this is where this discussion is, since the top comment. Please go elsewhere for straw men.

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afro88 4 days ago | parent [-]

No one mentioned anything about "people who can't program at all" until your comment. Up until then the discussion was about using LLMs for production ready code. It's a given that people working on production systems know how to program.

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stavros 4 days ago | parent [-]

That is what "auto-edits" (in the first comment) and "vibe coding" (in the second comment) mean.

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afro88 a day ago | parent [-]

The bit you're missing is that people who can program also use "auto edits" and "vibe coding" when it fits the problem at hand

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stavros a day ago | parent [-]

As someone who can program and used vibe coding, when they use vibe coding and don't look at the output, how do they ensure errors don't compound?

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afro88 12 hours ago | parent [-]

I'll give you that - you can't vibe code, not look at the output, and push to main of a production codebase. Same as writing code normally.

But you can vibe code and auto-edit your way to a good PR. But you're reviewing the code being output when the agent finishes each task. Maybe that's not pure vibe coding?

	▲	stavros 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The definition of vibe coding is that you aren't looking at the code. That's what's never worked for me.