▲ | munchler 2 days ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think about this sometimes, so I like the idea, but how do you define “straight” on an oblate spheroid? Great circle, constant direction (e.g. “due east”), or something else? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | lqr a day ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The mathematical field of Differential Geometry can answer this question precisely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesic#Affine_geodesics An oblate spheroid is an example of a Riemannian manifold: a smooth object that looks like a plane (or, in general, any ℝ^n) locally, and has a way to measure angles between vectors in that local plane. All Riemannian manifolds have an object called the Levi-Cevita connection, which defines how vectors in the local plane (tangent space) most naturally map to vectors in other tangent spaces in the immediate neighborhood. Standing at a point on the Earth and looking in a certain direction gives us 1) a point on the manifold, and 2) a direction in that point's tangent space. We then take an infinitesimally small step forward, and apply the Levi-Cevita connection to get from the old tangent space to the (infinitesimally nearby) new tangent space, and repeat. This defines an ordinary differential equation. Integrating the differential equation gives us a curve through the manifold. Within some neighborhood of the initial point, this curve is a geodesic, i.e. the shortest path between the initial point and all subsequent points on the curve. This matches our typical intuition of "straight". (Disclaimer: I am currently learning about this topic, but am not an expert.) edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesics_on_an_ellipsoid goes into some interesting specifics about the results of this process on ellipsoids. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | brgross 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I went with great circles since that feels like the most “natural” straight line on a sphere — the path you’d walk if you just kept going forward without steering. You could define "straight" as a constant compass direction (I think it's called a "rhumb") -- that would look straight on a Mercator map but would actually require regular steering adjustments to maintain the bearing. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | diggan 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Probably not scientifically accurate or anything, but if you point somewhere, then "straight" is in that direction. I guess it'll loose accuracy as you get further and further in the distance of the direction, but probably for most people would be good enough for "straight in that direction" :) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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