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robwwilliams 5 days ago

I find Maturana’s definition satisfactory. Best overview in his book with Francesco Valera:

Autopoiesis and Cognition: The Realization of the Living (1980)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopoiesis_and_Cognition:_The...

Unfortunately out of print.

cwmma 5 days ago | parent [-]

how does it exclude fire, something well known for making more of itself (which seems to be the main criteria in Autopoiesis)