> Horoscopes are not a religious belief.

Saying that religious predictions use the same style of vagueness that allows people to retrospectively reconstruct them to match facts as horoscopes is not a claim that horoscopes are a religious belief.

> The majority of atheists globally believe in astrology

Even assuming this is true, what relevance does it have to the discussion?

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graemep 3 days ago | parent [-]

> Saying that religious predictions

What religious predictions? Religions do not generally make many predictions.

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dragonwriter 3 days ago | parent [-]

> What religious predictions? Religions do not generally make many predictions.

Religions tend to not make a lot of predictions, but they do make some (there's kind of an inverse relation between size and durability of religion and the number and specificity of predictions, though.)

But, if they didn't make any, they wouldn't have a special word for it ("prophecy").

	▲	graemep 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Prophecy is not synonym for prediction. it is a "message from God" in the major theistic religions. The only prophecies that were predictions I can think of with regard to Christianity were Jewish prophecies of a messiah. The Jewish prophets were leaders, not soothsayers. > there's kind of an inverse relation between size and durability of religion and the number and specificity of predictions, though I would question that - things like the Oracle at Delphi lasted a long time. So did fortune telling (mostly non-religious) around the world. How long as astrology lasted?