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ACCount37 2 days ago

I am very much against laws designed to protect children and stop terrorism.

By now, "think of the children" is a tired cliche of anti-freedom laws. If "protecting children" requires sacrificing freedom for everyone, then children should not be protected.

Every time I come across another anti-freedom law wrapped in an excuse of "think of the children", I question whether the worshippers of Moloch had the right idea after all.

thewebguyd a day ago | parent | next [-]

> If "protecting children" requires sacrificing freedom for everyone, then children should not be protected.

Agreed. It all goes back to the famous quote "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (granted, the quote was about taxation but the principle applies here)

Much like cybersecurity, it's always a trade off between absolute freedom and absolute safety. You don't get both. Every "safety" measure that gets put in place reduces your level of individual freedom. Go to far in the safety direction and you lose all your freedoms, and that trade off IMO is not worth it.

flumpcakes 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> I am very much against laws designed to protect children and stop terrorism.

This can't be true. You're against a law that says a convicted child rapist cannot work in schools? You're against a law that says people can't take bombs onto planes?

I think you're being dishonest in your statements, or do not care about anyone else in society.

johnnyanmac a day ago | parent | next [-]

>You're against a law that says a convicted child rapist cannot work in schools?

I'll be the devil's advocate: for how long and in what way? You can be on the child predator list because a minor caught you peeing on the side of a road. Do they deserve to be blocked out of an industry because of bad luck over something many people have done?

>You're against a law that says people can't take bombs onto planes?

Well that led to me not being able to bring a normal stick of deoderant in my bags. So maybe we should review the TSA oversight after 20 years.

>I think you're being dishonest in your statements, or do not care about anyone else in society.

and I think you're arguing in bad faith comparing the ability for government to track society's entire digital footprint to imprisoning a convicted criminal.

ACCount37 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I do think that both TSA and modern airport security in general should be dismantled. And that any law that claims to "protect children" or "stop terrorists" should be scrutinized as if it was written by Satan himself, with assumed malicious intent.

This is true for existing laws, and true twice over for anything that's being proposed. It's long overdue for the "safety" plague of "think of the children" to die.