This is already being done in Finland.

Shopping malls have parking with literal hundreds of chargers.

Even my local grocery store has 6 Level 2 chargers and 4 level 1 chargers.

Hell, the McDonald's has four 350kW chargers. Modern cars charge faster than you can order a Big Mac and shove it down your throat =)

The solution is to have Level 2 and Level 3 charging _everywhere_. Then you don't need to have massive 100kW+ batteries in cars, because you can get a bit of a charge every time you park.

The first big leap people moving from ICE to EV have to get over is that unlike ICE cars, EVs don't "need" to be charged to full every time. You plug in, do your stuff, unplug and move on. Very rarely does one need to "go charge" during normal daily life, that's only for road trips.

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nomel 4 days ago | parent [-]

> The solution is to have Level 2 and Level 3 charging _everywhere_.

I somewhat agree with this. My response was specifically, which I quoted, about "slow chargers" at office or transit, which I assumed was level 1. Level 2 is 8x faster, and can accommodate a 25 mile commute in two hours, rather than a net loss of change over 8 hours.

Level 1, at these locations, doesn't make sense.

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theshrike79 4 days ago | parent [-]

Depending on the level 1 though.

My "level 1" at home charges at 230V/10A from a normal outdoor outlet, which is around 2.3kW/hour. During an assumed 8 hour work day that's about 18kWh, which is enough to move my EV for over 100km.

My commute is WAAAY less than 100km, meaning that the battery is, in practice, full every time I leave. Even dropping it to 8A would still be perfectly enough.

The biggest problem is that L1 chargers are just glorified wall warts, nobody is doing L1 speeds with proper integrated Type2 connectors.

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nomel 3 days ago | parent [-]

Do you believe mass deployment of level 1 is going to happen?

	▲	theshrike79 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		It already has, Finland has "level 1" at pretty much every parking location for block heaters. All we'd need to do is remove the 2 hour hardware timer from it and make them 24/7.