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ants_everywhere 2 days ago

> in 2023, Google renames their chatbot from Bard to [Gemini][gemini] thereby completely eclipsing the 4-year-old independent protocol by the same name; this is possibly coincidental, which would make it the only unintentional attack on the open web by Google in the last 15 or so years —and at this point even that is doubtful;

So the theory is that Google chose the name of its AI -- easily one of the hardest and most revenue-impacting naming decisions it's made in years -- in order to create a name collision with a protocol nobody's heard of that's trying to revive GOPHER?

This is so obviously false that you have to re-read the rest of the article with the knowledge that the author is misunderstanding what they're seeing.

Much of what the author describes is increasing security and not wanting to work with XML.

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morkalork 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yahoo Gemini Ads team in shambles right now when nobody remembers they even existed.

TheCraiggers 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I suppose the definition of intentional is a bit murky here.

Yeah, you're right that Google probably didn't look at a list of open web technologies that they disagree with and choose one for their new tool. I guess I'll call that "malicious intention".

I'm sure that, however the name was picked, Google's lawyers looked for prior uses of the name. I'm sure it came up, and Google shrugged its shoulders in indifference. Maybe someone brought up the fact this would hurt some open standard or whatever, but nobody in power cared. Is this the same kind of malicious? Probably not, but it still shows that Google doesn't care about the open web and the collateral damage they cause.

ants_everywhere 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

surely the lawyers found far more name clashes with Bard than Gemini

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=gemini%2Cbard&...

TheCraiggers 2 days ago | parent [-]

Ok, but were they open web standards? That's the topic at hand here. Regardless, that just shows Google doesn't care.

drysart 2 days ago | parent [-]

Why are 'open web standards' specifically deserving of greater name protection than literally everything else?

queenkjuul a day ago | parent [-]

Because Google participates in creating web standards

jaredklewis 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have you ever tried to name something? Anything that isn’t an outright racial slur is in use by something. Usually dozens or hundreds of things. Some protocol that almost no one has even heard of is going to be very low on the list of conflicts to avoid. This has nothing to do with the open web.

tantalor a day ago | parent | next [-]

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scotty79 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You are allowed to make new words.

criddell 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Gemini? You mean the name used by Gemini Data Inc 8 years before the Gemini protocol was launched?

Centigonal 2 days ago | parent [-]

Nah, they'll probably referring to the Gemini cryptocurrency exchange which started in 2014.

owebmaster 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Did you at least read the excerpt you posted? It says the opposite of your conclusion, this is not even the worse interpretation of what was said, it's plain false.