What an Orwellian nightmare. These systems require real-time GPS data.

Just as buying a ticket with cash is becoming increasingly hard in parts of Europe, I can see a near future where having a phone sending constant GPS updates becomes a requirement (a requirement in an strict sense, or the sense that the alternative is unreasonably cumbersome or more expensive)

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LargoLasskhyfv 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Tss...

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_beast#Mark_of_th...

Furthermore: Nostradamus, Mühlhiasl, Alois Irlmaier, Baba Vanga

They all had something to say about universal tracking of movement in general, and payments especially. Depending on interpretation, of course. But visions and trips can be hazy and vague. As can be translations of very old texts.

For instance, that (mark of the) beast can also mean just a (new(emerging)) thing, not a literal animal.

Which in this context can mean anything from credit-/debit-/chipcard/smartphone/bar-, QR-code/(implanted or otherwise mandatory)RFID, where without that you can't do a thing.

The new passport, revokable anytime, for any reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID2020 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You'll_own_nothing_and_be_happ... , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer which on paper look all very good und justified.

But... when you are cought as bystander in some dragnet, or your accounts are canceled by some zalgorithmic system spasm, the banks have (mandatory)internal systems which forbid them to give any information about why to the affected person.

Which also can be (ab)used to silence/disable/cancel politically divergents/misfits, whistleblowers, etc. Triggered by their political enemies.

Brave new world, isn't it?

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Gud 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You don’t have to use this (awesome) system.

You can buy tickets to the trains and trams everywhere.

	▲	octo888 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		I acknowledged that in my comment, and didn't claim otherwise

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tpm 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Sending GPS updates from the subway?

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Nextgrid 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

At least on iOS, it doesn't access the GPS directly. It asks the OS for updates to the device's location with a certain degree of precision. It's up to the OS to blend various sensor data (GPS, cellular, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth beacons - the latter is used underground to get a good position fix without a line of sight to the sky) and send that to the app. If it was using GPS continuously it would drain your battery very quickly. So if the device can get a good idea of its location via Wi-Fi/Bluetooth, it will not even bother turning on the GPS.

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octo888 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

There are many public transport systems that are not a subway. There are trains and buses that are wholly above ground, for example.

	▲	tpm 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, but underground systems are a substantial part of many mass transit networks, and even for those that aren't underground, GPS connection can't be considered reliable. Anyway if you are scared of Orwellian nightmares you shouldn't use public transport anyway as there are CCTVs everywhere.