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BLKNSLVR 3 days ago

> but hybrids are still obviously better

Like a lot of anti-EV commentary^, there's nuance being missed and that is: use case. There is no "X is obviously better" (this is also true for a lot more topics than this)

I have a Nissan Leaf that's perfect for the purposes we bought it, better than a hybrid, far better than a petrol or diesel car. There are also scenarios where a hybrid is better, and there are also scenarios where a great big diesel burning engine is the best option. These gaps are closing though.

^I've had frustrating conversations with relatives when discussing the possibility of buying an EV where they just round-trip through a list of negatives, and I have to explain repeatedly that they don't apply to our use case. Examples:

- Can't tow: I haven't towed anything with any of our ICE cars in years (and we still have the ICE cars anyway)

- Can't take it interstate: We're not planning to take it interstate, and we're not planning on buying one big enough to carry what we'd need for an interstate trip anyway.

- Wouldn't a hybrid be better / safer first option to dip into electric: Not for our very regular and frequent short trips, pure electric is simpler and cheaper, and I've done the research to be confident in the decision.

- Miscellaneous other: We're not actually getting rid of the existing cars (yet) so we're not losing anything you might be worried about us losing.

The Leaf is on track to have saved us nearly $2k in petrol for the year (even taking into account the cost of electricity to charge her). If she lasts another four years she'll have paid for herself.

_carbyau_ 3 days ago | parent [-]

I agree with you. Cars seem to be discussed as an all or nothing decision process.

Many families where I am have two cars. Both cars spend an inordinate amount of time driving around the city. One car will be the preferred long distance family hauler.

Simply making the other car full electric seems like a no brainer to me.

dotancohen 3 days ago | parent [-]

In my family we kept the Impreza, but the electric (Tesla 3) became the long-distance hauler. It turns out to be cheaper to run long distances, quieter and more comfortable, and surprisingly has more room for baggage. We couldn't find a single reason to keep using the Impreza for long distance.

_carbyau_ 2 days ago | parent [-]

Charging options are not so well built out in my country. It'll get better, but it's not there yet.

So ICE for the long hauls, electric for the city running where you can reliably charge it at home.