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kelnos 2 days ago

Because it's never been about ideals. It's about power and financial/economic dominance. Politicians will align themselves with whatever ideology will get them the support they need to accumulate power and money. Whenever they take actions that seem to violate that ideology, they'll use spin and propaganda to justify it so as not to anger their base.

Frieren 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Politicians will align themselves with whatever ideology will get them the support they need to accumulate power and money.

Not all politicians are like that. The Republican party has been very focused on that.

"All politicians bad" thinking damages the work of the many people fighting for a better and more just world. There are even politicians in conflict areas that give their lives trying to fight cartels or terrorist groups. "All are the same" is degrading for us all humans.

lesuorac a day ago | parent [-]

Sure "not all" but it's a lot.

Biden voted to make same-sex marriage Illegal [1] and later for legalizing same-sex [2]. A bit interesting that his running mate neglected to legalize it and instead just didn't defend it in court (Imagine how people would talk if Trump refused to defend a law in court, lol!)

But yeah, some politicians like Bernie actually have been consistent their career while others like Ron Paul just make a big talk about their stances but then vote to inflate the deficit anyways.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respect_for_Marriage_Act

bamboozled a day ago | parent [-]

It's almost like...people can change their mind about something?

I like Bernie too but he is nuts. He's a far left voice who is often quite rational, we need someone like him to bring things back towards the center, but I doubt he'd be a good president.

lesuorac 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure people can change their mind but when your opinions are changing at the same time as popular opinion it doesn't sound like your mind is changed. It just sounds like you want to be popular and that's dangerous to me as a voter because I want to vote for a set of core values and not a face.

Frieren 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> He's a far left voice

As European I see Bernie as center-right, but I guess it is a matter of perspective.

bamboozled 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Well he's an American politician, so I'm talking within that context.

beefnugs 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah and it turns out if you lie to enough little disparate groups you can become supreme ruler!

Maybe dump isnt really a racist, or a crystal rubbing brain worm yoga mom... but he sure tricked them into voting for him. He actually did more than most politicians and actually did each of them a tiny solid rather than just ignore them after winning too

equinox_nl a day ago | parent [-]

Unless you chronically need healthcare. In that case: good luck.