▲ | max_ 3 days ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The entire internet needs to be re-designed to stand up against attacks. - DDOS attacks - Spamming - UK like surveillance laws - LLM scraping Why is it that there is almost not initiative for this? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | grues-dinner 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The Internet has been redesigned. It's just not been redesigned with your interests in mind and at least some of the "attacks" are features to the right people. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | theturtletalks 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The precursor to BitCoin was this interesting project called HashCash. It was built to combat email spam and forced the sender to spend compute solving a moderate hash and put it in the header. The person who receives the email can prove easily if the sender "paid" the cost. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | progval 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
There are, but they each have their tradeoffs. Proof of work and micropayments (eg. Xanadu or Internet Mail 2000) schemes solve spamming and LLM scraping, but are more expensive or more CPU-intensive. P2P systems like FreeNet too, but they are harder to use and more storage intensive and make it easier to spy on individual users. Tor solves UK-like surveillance laws but it's slower and makes it easier to spam. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | freefaler 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Decentralization and interoperability, including the TCP routing protocols give the ability for the network to grow freely, but makes those kind of attacks easier. The easiest way to mitigate those problem will be to decrease the openness and centralize more. It might lead to even worse things that DDOS. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | GuB-42 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
RFC-3514 [1] proposed an effective solution against attacks. So see, there are initiatives, but people treat it as a joke, maybe because of when it was released. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | butchkass 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Go right ahead | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | uberman 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Out of curiosity, do you see the archive in question as being part of the problem or that it needs protection from the issues you raise? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | squigz 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Because the vast majority of people don't want this, and not for some nefariuos reason or because they're stupid, but because we don't want to enable blatant fraud and abuse, among other things. (Not to mention the astronomical technical work it would be; you can't just replace "The Entire Internet") | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | dulpo 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Redesigned like how? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | anon191928 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
because they will come after new design? how do you not see this? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | monster_truck 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'll start the wiki | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | fsflover 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You're probably looking for https://geti2p.net | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | exe34 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
the problem is that anybody who does that work will be targeted very quickly by the people in power. even if it's decentralised, it'll be banned one way or another and you'll be hunted down. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | ilovefood 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I fully agree. It's difficult though because I genuinely believe that the solution space overlaps with cryptography, which is quickly discounted as viable option because it is now laden with negative connotations. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | random3 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"Be the change you want to see in the world" | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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