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nobody9999 3 days ago

>For context: $0.18/kWh in US vs. $0.32/kWh in France and $0.36/kWh Germany.

That's as may be, but my electricity bill is 1/3 for kwhs of electrcity, and 2/3 for "delivering" said power.

As such, it seems like France and Germany may have an advantage there, no?

fy20 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'm in another European country. Here it's combined into the final kWh price rather than a separate line item. 7c/kWh for transmission fees.

The grid is owned and managed by a government entity, so the price is set by them with parliament oversight. Last year they had to reduce the price (from 10c/kWh), as they found out they'd been overcharging people for a few years and had a few hundred million surplus of revenue.

And yes they are investing quite a lot to modernise the equipment and put high voltage powelines underground (lots of forests here). My country has a population density comparable to Texas.

phtrivier 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have my last electricity bill, from France, something that's indexed on the "public price" (so it's possible you get extra discount, but I bet it's representative)

Electricity itself is priced at around 0,14 €/kWh (sparing you the 6th significant digits), so roughly $0,16/kWh at current exchange rates and taxes of of 0,034 €/kWh ($0,039/kWh).

Let's round it to up to $0.17/kWh, which is surprisingly close to your number.

The additional taxes are a "flat" fee of 1,8 €/month (2 $/month),

Then there is the registration itself, with sits at about $15 / month. (I can challenge myself to getting bills where the registration and taxes are bigger than the actual current.)

I'm not sure how I would get a nice number in "€/kWh", though ?

nobody9999 3 days ago | parent [-]

I actually checked a recent bill and it's ~USD0.012/kwh (EU0.10), plus taxes and fees (total cost ~USD0.13/kwh or EU0.11) for the actual electricity.

Then there's a USD0.175 fee for "delivery," plus an additional ~50% in taxes and fees for "delivery (total cost ~USD0.26/kwh or EU0.22) for "delivery."

Total cost: USD0.38/kwh or EU0.33

N.B.: The above detail was for the month of June. Prices do fluctuate and I'd expect that electricity prices for July, especially as hot as it's been here, will be more than for June.

>I'm not sure how I would get a nice number in "€/kWh", though ?

I just divided total cost, including taxes and fees (for electricity and for delivery) by the number of kwh used.

That's not very exact as some of the fees do not vary by usage, but I figured it was close enough.

breckenedge 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s the same for me in Texas, delivery is easily 2/3 of my bill and fluctuates wildly. It’s not part of my quoted rate either, just tacked on.