>Pricing/usage will be very simple - a fixed subscription and we will no longer know the tokenomics because the provider will have greatly abstracted and optimized the cost per token, favoring a model that they can optimize margin against a fixed revenue floor.

Personally, I think it's far more likely that a year from now either SotA models will have shifted elsewhere or Anthropic will have changed their pricing model to something less favorable than the current MAX plans. Either of those scenarios could suddenly result in the current Claude subscription models either not existing or no longer being the screaming deal they are now. I think it's exceedingly unlikely we see any major provider go to an unmetered business model any time soon.

And if you've built your entire workflow around tooling specific to Anthropic's services, suddenly you have an even bigger problem than just switching to a more cost effective provider. That's one of the bigger reasons I'm very skeptical of these wrappers around CC generally.

Even Claude Code itself isn't doing anything that couldn't and hasn't been done by other tools other than being tied to a really cheap way to use Claude.

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petesergeant 4 days ago | parent [-]

Claude’s wide adoption makes it more likely Anthropic will stay SotA, as do the max plans. This is the training data they crave to be able to improve, and it’s costing them peanuts while identifying customers who’ll pay and building loyalty. The data flywheel enabled by Claude is the closest thing to a vault any of the models have right now.

	▲	commandar 4 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Anthropic's models are fantastic, but they are -- by far -- one of the most expensive providers on an API basis. That's a large part of what makes the Max plans a great deal, right now. Even on a Max plan, it's not hard to completely blow through your usage limits if you try to use Opus heavily. All it takes is another provider to land a combination of model and cost that makes Code less of a deal for vendor lock-in to become a problem.
	▲	qcnguy 4 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Do they have such a flywheel? I remember I had to specifically opt-in to sharing my Claude Code sessions with them. I think by default they aren't training on people's sessions.