▲ | komali2 19 hours ago | |||||||
> You can have a conversation about politics You are lucky, you must live in a nice country with normal laws and normal cops. I can't imagine any other reason why you'd just offer this up... Even an American with a thin blue line flag on their house would warn against talking politics with a cop. Check out the videos of the statsi troops going door to door in DC, fawning to locals about how they're there on trump's orders to "keep them safe." Armed to the teeth. You think it's a good idea to try to have a polite political conversation with men like that? You are blessed! For your own safety, never come to America, stay in peace and comfort elsewhere, I genuinely fear how your kind hearted openness will land you into awful trouble in the USA. If you do come, enjoy a day sitting in a courtroom. Watch how the simplest, most meaningless conversation with a cop is read out by the court in a toneless transcript without any context and how a judge will grant probable cause on it, or consider it in sentencing to their detriment. Bon homanie about the slow construction of a local freeway? In court that's lack of attachment and local loyalty, disaffected personality, antisocial tendencies. Complaints about the EU? General disrespect of authority, likelihood to stir up trouble, lack of respect for law and order. I guess it's time to trudge out the classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE Anything you say will be used against you. > I'm sure you can show me hundreds of cases, when there are millions of policeman it still wouldn't show that a majority of policeman is corrupt and commits crimes. The most likely outcome of an encounter with a bear is it runs away. Sometimes though, it's lost its discomfort around humans, is rabid, or just hungry enough to give it a shot. You should treat every bear like that bear. So too for the police. If the police want to be liked and treated with respect, they can become firemen instead. There's no song called "fuck the fire department." > I can't really wrap my mind about that, because in my experience a superior that thinks a rape here and there is a good thing, still will kick subordinates out, to save his own reputation. Untold such cases. It doesn't have to be logical to you, police departments in the USA reject candidates that are too smart. | ||||||||
▲ | 1718627440 10 hours ago | parent [-] | |||||||
If you think your policeman is incapable of accepting different political positions, the "conversation" can mean you listening and asking questions to highlight the position of the policeman. In my country joking about incapability of some public organization is a common topic of jokes it doesn't reveals anything about you, you are just citing "public opinion" as being broadcasted by the state media. You can choose your equivalent in your country. I thought it is republican accepted stance to rant about the libs not being able to do anything for the public? That's what I think about ranting about the state of the highway. I thought some like to rant about the "trade restrictions" of the EU? That's what I had in mind. Will that kind of thing bring you into trouble? --- > statsi [sic!] troops That's a good reference, because that's actually what I have in mind. It's not just my personal believe, it is about a lesson from a historic successful revolution. The troops of the StaSi (ministry for state security) and the NVA (national peoples army) were also convinced that the demonstrators are all rapist, that do horrible things, that will riot and deserve to be shot. They were well prepared to repeat what happened in China just some weeks earlier. The marksmen were all well positioned, the police made violent noise and gestures. Everything was prepared for the next massacre. Do you know what prevented that? The demonstrators being peaceful, singing and praying. It was quite important that nobody shouts, nobody lets themself in anger kick against even a garbage bin. Like you wrote the police has infinite resources compared to you. They are quite well prepared to you rioting. You know what they aren't prepared for? You treating them like a decent human. That's why treating them as the brutal animals they often reveal themself as, won't actually help you. They expect you to, and this strengthens their opinions about you. You know what actually might help? Treating them like gentlemen. > It doesn't have to be logical to you It isn't about being smart, it's about the power of public opinion. When you say "it has been like this", you are actually weakening the public opinion. That's why that doesn't cause what you want it to. --- > General disrespect of authority This shouldn't have any effect on a judgement. Can you seriously be convicted for such nebulous crimes in the USA? | ||||||||
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