It can be kind of horrifying at times. A couple of years ago I was interviewing for work and ended up talking to a big liquor distributor - their challenge was dealing with a bunch of text files over FTP, and it was comically bad, they had a $300k annual spend on AWS, Kubernetes, the works. And they could have done the whole thing on a single EC2 instance with a couple of shell scripts. Needless to say I was laughed out of the room.