Perforce gets the job done but it's a major reason why build tooling is worse in games.

Github/gitlab is miles ahead of anything you can get with Perforce. People are not just pushing for git because they ux of it, they're pushing git so they can use the ecosystem.

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bananaboy 4 days ago | parent [-]

What do you mean “build tooling is worse in games”? I’ve worked in games for 20 years and used both perforce and got extensively across small, medium, and large projects.

There’s nothing technically worse about perforce with regard to CI/CD, if that’s what you’re talking about, except that of course there are more options for git where you just click a button and enter your credentials and away you go. But that’s more a function of the fact that there aren’t as many options for perforce hosting and companies are more likely to host it internally themselves.

If companies are using perforce but aren’t running any CI/CD that’s because they’re lazy/small/don’t see the value.

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jayd16 4 days ago | parent [-]

You said it yourself, there are less options and that's worse. Swarm is a bad joke. Nothing is as integrated as gitlab/GitHub.

	▲	bananaboy 4 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Right. Sure I agree with that. You have to do a lot more yourself. I just don't think it's that big a deal though but that's probably just me. Someone running Perforce has probably set that up themselves, and so they vaguely know what they're doing. So if they care about CI/CD they probably have the ability to set it up themselves. Personally I've used CruiseControl.NET, Jenkins, Buildbot, and custom in-house software and the first three support Perforce out of the box. I also don't mind the classic Swarm UI (I don't like the new UI) although I admit I do prefer the GitHub and GitLab UI!
	▲	dazzawazza 4 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		There is the old adage that every bit of friction increases the chance something won't be done. Swarm feels like a minimal effort to me and just isn't as frictionless as GitHub. Id rather have Swarm than not, but it's not great.