I made a similar comment below, but I’ll add to this one too: If I, as a gym member, use their api when I run their app and that’s ok, why can I not run the same api from a third-party app for the exact same use-case? If his app asked me to punch in my eight-digit pin and then just kept that stored locally for convenience, what is the issue?

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valzevul 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

OP here. Yeah, "copyright law" was a lazy shorthand, but it reads better than "tortious interference."

PureGym's T&Cs [1] have a ridiculously long "PIN abuse policy" (probably meant to stop people sharing with mates). They can cancel memberships or even retroactively charge for gym use if you "knowingly provided your PIN to another individual."

I'm not a lawyer and don't fancy being the test case for whether entering your PIN on a third-party website/app counts as "knowingly providing" it. Given how their app works, I suspect they might just ban a bunch of accounts instead.

Though now that I think about it, the squat racks are always packed, so maybe I should just distribute the app to people who go at the same time as me.

[1] https://www.puregym.com/membership-terms-conditions/

	▲	jt2190 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		> I'm not a lawyer and don't fancy being the test case for whether entering your PIN on a third-party website/app counts as "knowingly providing" it. I guess I'm assuming that you would design the iOS app to collect and store the PIN number on the device, and never ever share it, since (if I read the post correctly) that's all you'd need to get to basic auth. I take your point that that might still be considered "sharing with a third party" but honestly I suspect that (a) they wouldn't notice for a long long time and (b) they would typically start by sending a c&d, not hiring a team top-notch lawyers and going straight to court unless you're really wealthy and there's some prize to be had for all of those legal fees.

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AlienRobot 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Look at it this way. If I buy something from a store and pay in cash, and then the cashier takes some money from the register and hands me the change, that's okay. But if I open the register myself and take the money, they call the police.

i.e. just because it's POSSIBLE to do something doesn't mean it's okay to do it.

	▲	NoahZuniga 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Well, as long as you don't steal anything or assault the cashier you haven't done anything illegal (even if the police is called). You're example fails.