It's frustrating how far you can go out of your way to avoid being associated with such superficially similar tropes and still fail miserably. Yudkowsky in particular hated that he couldn't get a discussion without being typecast as the guy worried about Terminator. He hated it to the point he wrote a whole article on why he thought Terminator tropes were bad (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/rHBdcHGLJ7KvLJQPk/the-logica...).

As a side note:

> any serious attempt at discussion gets bogged down by [...] without taking a single shower in the same span of time.

This is unnecessary and (somewhat ironically) undermines your own point. I would like to see less of this on HN.