To be honest you sound super defensive, not just in a classic programmer when someone invades on their turf sort of way, but also in the classic way people who are reluctant to accept a new technology

This sentiment of, a human will always be needed, there’s no replacement for human touch, the stakes are too high, is as old as time

You just said, quite literally, that people leveraging LLMs to code are not doing it at your level - that’s borders on hubris

The fact of the matter is that like most tools, you get out of AI what you put into it

I know a lot of engineers and this pride, this reluctance to accept the help is super common

The best engineers on the other hand are leveraging this just fine, just another tool for them that speeds things up

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geraldwhen 6 days ago | parent [-]

Hubris? The offshore team submitting 2000 line nonsense PRs from AI is reality.

We’re living it. We see it every day. The business leaders cannot be convinced that this isn’t making less skilled developers more productive.

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		Worth noting that there are business leaders who see high LOC and number of commits as metrics of good programmers. To them the 2000 LOC commits from offshore are proof that it's working. Sadly the proof that it's not will show in their sales and customer satisfaction if they keep producing their product long enough. For too long the business model in tech has been to get bought out so this doesn't often matter to business.
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