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fc417fc802 3 days ago

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NietzscheanNull 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

This argument strikes me as fairly textbook "whataboutism."

TFA shows a clear and present case of a particular action taken by one political faction. Your argument, that the opposing faction is equivalent to a greater or lesser degree and would follow the same course of action, rests entirely on a hypothetical; it isn't supported by any concrete evidence or cited examples.

I'm certainly not asserting that any one faction/party holds a monopoly on moral high-ground, just highlighting that this kind of argument is frequently used as a tactic to deflect discussion away from ground truth considerations and shift the debate towards (artificially) neutral conditions.

fc417fc802 3 days ago | parent [-]

I certainly don't think it qualifies as whataboutism. I'm neither preaching inaction nor attempting to refute any prior claims. Neither do I attempt to claim a broad general equivalence.

It seems to me that you are disregarding the context? From up thread:

> No political party seems to be on the side of a principled defence of freedom of speech.

I did cite an example, at least indirectly, when I mentioned other countries. Consider the online speech measures in the UK as but one example. Not the same political party to be sure but the underlying ideology is shared. The only significant difference (IMO) is the presence or absence of first amendment protections.

omnimus 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What is far left in US? From what you are saying i got impression there is only far right and far left in US to vote. I am not from US but that doesn't seem right.

bitwize 2 days ago | parent [-]

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radixdiaboli 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> I don't doubt for a second that the far left would create such laws if they could.

I mean, they could as much as the fringe actors this article is about. I'm not sure what you think is stopping them from going for it in the same fashion.

fc417fc802 3 days ago | parent [-]

As already mentioned, the support for it appearing somewhat less uniform as far as I can tell. Plus I would expect the knowledge that it will be swiftly struck down to discourage efforts.

Of course I would have expected the second point to apply to the GOP as well, yet here we are, so clearly my world model has some inaccuracies in this regard.

allenrabinovich 3 days ago | parent [-]

That’s a really exhausting, long-winded, bloviating way of saying you are wrong.