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Imustaskforhelp 7 days ago

They only use cards because credit cards can allow them to get sales from people who wouldn't have been able to buy the product through debit itself, but they can buy it from credit.., so they are okay with eating 1-2% of costs in the fact that sale might happen and the companies will get 0.5-1% of it to you back as rewards (hopefully) and so there is incentive to buy using credit card for rewards but they might also give incentives of 1-2% if you buy through cash since they aren't eating that 1-2% cost.

And this whole network has now been built in such a way that now even debit costs the same charge just as network fees

Open sourcing this might be a step in good faith and I mean, we have UPI where I live and it has 0 fees and trust me its crazy good. I personally wish that either everybody in the world could use UPI or pixis from brazil.

Tor3 7 days ago | parent [-]

The argument doesn't hold - if cards were only about getting sales which they otherwise wouldn't get - and the part about "getting sales which they otherwise wouldn't get", is true enough - then there's no reason to refuse cash payments. That's additional sales, right? But the fact is that more and more shops refuse cash payments entirely. "Pay by card or go somewhere else".

Imustaskforhelp 6 days ago | parent [-]

I can't comment on this fact of more and more shops refusing for cash payments entirely as I personally have NEVER seen that?

Provide me an article or some proof to this fact for me to comment further as currently we are at an disagreement on this thing which I hope we can turn into meaningful discussion.

Tor3 6 days ago | parent [-]

Well.. just a quick search (as I won't be talking a walk and photograph all the "cards only" signs I now see in so many places):

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/mar/16/uk-high-street...

https://www.dnb.nl/en/general-news/news-2023/some-retail-sec...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20gevkx8gyo

https://www.aarp.org/money/personal-finance/no-cash-accepted...

https://educaloi.qc.ca/en/legal-news/do-you-have-the-right-t...

https://www.riksbank.se/en-gb/payments--cash/payments-in-swe...

Imustaskforhelp 6 days ago | parent [-]

Well I appreciate the effort, might need to look a closer look since my country has UPI and its basically free transactions instantly and even then we are constantly warned by our older generation to always carry cash too as there are places that will still not accept UPI or you would need to go to shop, do upi payment, get cash etc. and I kinda agree, I have seen/heard of even many fights happening because UPI wasn't accepted.

and that is when UPI is almost ubiquitous, I can't imagine a shop saying cards only. I think it might be illegal where I live.