The difference being that I don't think anyone in their right mind would declare the internet as a whole as counterculture in the first place anymore.

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giantg2 12 hours ago | parent [-]

This goes for Defcon in my opinion too

	▲	monocasa 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I think it's fair for someone to have the impression that defcon is a predominantly counter culture space, even if it really isn't.