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soulofmischief 2 days ago

> Ethan Guo was hoping to become the youngest person to fly solo to all seven continents

I think a more favorable title is "US pilot stranded in Antarctica after landing plane without permission". They chose the word "influencer" for a reason, even though it was a pilot trying to set a record that happened to film himself. He's even flying to raise funds for cancer research.

Too bad he lied to ground control, what a great way to lose your license, prison aside.

edit: to answer some of the replies, I'm just concerned with the implicit patronization that media applies to anyone who has a hobby/career but also makes money off of publicizing it.

bachmeier 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> They chose the word "influencer" for a reason

And that reason is his 600K followers on TikTok.

CGMthrowaway a day ago | parent [-]

Which could describe tens of thousands of people posting to tiktok. I know someone who got to half a million without even trying.

JumpCrisscross a day ago | parent [-]

> Which could describe tens of thousands of people posting to tiktok

The relevant nexus is influencer status and doing something dangerous and stupid. At the very least, he will lose his ability to fly.

jncfhnb 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> He's even flying to raise funds for cancer research.

The best line from the Lorax film is in this song where he’s trying to put a positive spin on his aggressive commercialization and they say “a portion of proceeds goes to charity”!

slumberlust a day ago | parent | next [-]

You might enjoy this classic: https://youtu.be/kTdScE3Rqh8

phkahler 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

>> “a portion of proceeds goes to charity”!

Right! How much does this world tour cost vs how much he brings in vs how much goes to cancer research?

CGMthrowaway a day ago | parent [-]

What does it matter, if the proceeds would never have been generated in the first place without the adventure?

jncfhnb a day ago | parent [-]

if a guy makes a million dollars doing something shitty for himself and donates a thousand to charity it shouldn’t cancel out

calmbonsai a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I concur with the consequences and the perverse incentives involved, but this goes with the general advice of "If you're going to break the law, either do so extremely publicly or extremely privately."

The really sad thing here is I have little doubt this could've been arranged legally given the respective parties and interests involved, but Mr. Guo chose to be selfish and foolhardy by not abiding by anyone else's timeline or interests. He deserves all the punishment and derision coming his way.

pjc50 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This incident reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust and his landing in Red Square. A risky thing to do at a time when air defences were very much live, and also incredibly risky to land in a public square, but he made it and only spent a few months in prison.

xg15 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He is an influencer and a pilot. Both things are relevant to the story.

soulofmischief a day ago | parent [-]

And yet the headline cherry-picked one of them.

0xffff2 a day ago | parent [-]

The "is a pilot" part can reasonably be inferred from "after landing plane". It doesn't need to be stated explicitly.

soulofmischief a day ago | parent [-]

We can dispense with the rhetoric, it's very obvious that the headline was chosen to elicit a specific reaction and frame the story in a specific way.

exabrial 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

because thats exactly what he is?

jart a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They probably left him no choice but to lie.

They're not a very good government.

dragonwriter a day ago | parent [-]

> They probably left him no choice but to lie

Since the whole flight was a choice, he obviously had the choice not to lie.

keybored 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thousands of people have pursued their dreams or goals while doing-it-to-raise-funds-for-good-cause. I don’t really get it... people can just do whatever and put an Other People Are Helping Cure Cancer sticker on it. Like, what? What does this stunt have to do with cancer?

aredox 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

>He's even flying to raise funds for cancer research.

He is even using sick kids as a cover for his behavior.

Honestly if he isn't a manipulative psychopath, he is well on his way to become one.

jameslk 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

What differentiates a person who’s doing a stunt to raise money for a charitable cause and a person who is “using sick kids as cover” for their behavior?

JumpCrisscross 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> What differentiates a person who’s doing a stunt to raise money for a charitable cause and a person who is “using sick kids as cover” for their behavior?

One, coördination. Did the charity know about this fundraiser?

Two, long-term orientation. Is this a one-off to gain followers? Or is he consistently giving to charity?

Three, outcome. How much did he raise and donate?

None of these bear favourably for this kid. He’s an influencer. It’s nice he’s making people think about charity. But he’s not showing any signs of giving a shit about the effects of his actions.

jameslk a day ago | parent [-]

Surely you can do all of those things and still be a machiavellian psychopath?

Or be too lazy to do those things and still have altruistic intentions?

Couldn’t someone have both selfish and altruistic intentions simultaneously?

My point being, it’s hard to know the truth but easy to assume the worst about someone. Maybe I don’t have enough context to know otherwise, but I don’t see a reason to jump to the conclusion this kid is a psychopath

JumpCrisscross a day ago | parent [-]

> it’s hard to know the truth but easy to assume the worst about someone

He’s a stupid kid. He should continue to be allowed to be a stupid kid. He just shouldn’t be allowed to fly a plane while being this stupid.

aredox a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is easy: he is a proven liar who is ready to endanger other people. He lied about his flight plan and imposed himself to a remote base in one of the most inhospitable regions of Earth. Had anything happened to him, rescuers would have had to risk their lives; he got lucky but right now, he is eating into the base's reserves of food, water, energy and fuel.

I can guarantee you 100% he doesn't care for a second about sick kids, the same way he doesn't care for a second about the people on the base.

keybored 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Only God and the person in question knows.

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