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halflife 5 days ago

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torium 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> halflife

> 50% of all the Jews worldwide were wiped out by their own countrymen during the holocaust. Less than 5% of Gaza was killed. Russia lost more than 10% of its population in WW2, would that be considered holocaust?

If you wanna throw numbers at me you need to first clarify what percentage of innocent killing you find acceptable.

halflife 5 days ago | parent [-]

Well, what is your standard for holocaust?

torium 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I asked first. You didn't answer so I don't feel the need to answer either.

Also, your disingenuity (implying without stating that 5% is small) already convinced me that you're not in good faith, so this wouldn't be productive anyway.

halflife 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Well, if we’re being pedantic, you stated that the war is the Palestinian holocaust, I asked if other conflicts with much higher casualty count would be also considered.

But if we want to continue this thread it appears that most wars in urban areas have a ratio of 30-90% civilian casualties https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio

mrs6969 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The problem is that this is not a war. Israel does not fight with a an enemy, it is a slaughter to a group of people where they also control their water, food and electricity.

Can you also say jews in germany were at war during WW2?

halflife 5 days ago | parent [-]

So whose holding the Israeli hostages?

mrs6969 5 days ago | parent [-]

and who is keeping palestinian hostages? invading lands? killing land/home owners?

torium 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Sounds like you wanted me to say "5% is a big number" and then you would say "it's not compared to these other things". Sorry to burst your talking point.

Yeah, it's more complicated than that, I'm glad you agree.

nahuel0x 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

There is no formal definition of "Holocaust". In contrast, the "Genocide" category is an international legal figure and what Israel is doing in Gaza clearly falls under it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention

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alangibson 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

More whataboutism. Go find another thread. You are terrible at this.

buyucu 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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