This is not the perception I heard. People from SE Asia are welcome to comment on this (and they would provide a better perspective than I can) but I know several Cali people of Flipino or Vietnamese descent whose parents are not wealthy surgeons, and they also favor the holistic approach. It also becomes a problem of numbers. Hispanic and Asian kids are the fastest growing denominations in the US. It is very likely that many of them are recent immigrants and are not wealthy. Of course, I am not saying that having a sad story in and of itself is a hall pass. All I am saying is many comments here state that focusing SOLELY on grades and tests is fair, despite the fact that is not true. I went to a Top 5 college. I was not rich. I grew up with a mom that saved ice cream buckets to reuse them. I saw many rich kids' siblings take entire summers off to study and plan their applications. Whereas kids where I grew up in Detroit held summer jobs at country clubs, ice cream shops, and mall stores to help with bills. How are standardized tests fair with this context in mind? I am getting heavily down voted. I will say this. I was a white kid, whose parents were not wealthy. I was a refugee. And I am in favor of the holistic approach. I think it speaks volumes on here when rich white guys who are typically progressives line up with Trump policies on this matter (the other big one being Israel). I think this is where you take a hard look in the mirror, and question whether what you believe is right. I am not arguing further on this topic. I am a living experience of it. Reducing entire applicants to those metrics that are believed on here to be objective is reductionist, and I promise you, the most accomplished engineers and founders will not come from that pool of applicants you worship.

I grew up there. Rarely saw any asian kids, although it is changing these days. The Jews were in the affluent neighborhoods (like Grosse Pointe), they wished to be white and avoided Detroit at all costs. But nice try. I am white. Detroit areas I grew up in were mostly black. The few whites there were not rich (we were not rich). But again. I don't expect someone defending legacy systems to understand this. What part of Detroit are you from? Or are you just an apologists for your rich masters who seek to buy their way out of a holistic review, so their kids can attend top schools and America can become segregated again, except this time, on the basis of income and equality? I am not a Russian bot. Are you an Israeli bot that is charged with covering a genocide somewhere? Maybe that's why you want to undermine fairness in the US. Aren't our taxes enough little bot bud?

Jewish quotas were removed decades ago. In fact, today, many donors and beneficiaries of the legacy system are Jewish. Today, the disenfranchised are not Jews. In fact, Jews are among the richest ethnic group in the US (look at their median household income). There is a reason many deans got fired from Ivy leagues when they attempted to protect free speech. It is because Ackman and most donors are Jewish, and their threats could make a dean bark on command. I imagine you are still living in the 60s. Most of the disenfranchised in the US today are blacks, Hispanic, SE Asians, and refugees. Half of the billionaire class in these United States today are Jews... So your argument about quotas is ridiculous. Europeans were not allowed education under the French monarchy. We can go back further in fact. Or look at different settings (Ghaza children being denied food and education?). Ridiculous reasoning on your part.

Maybe I am not. But then again, maybe you are just academically inclined. I was responding to the ethnic argument the OP posted. Just becuase you tested well does not make you intelligent buddy. Any user here is welcome to compare you and I's accomplishments. I am willing to share my Linkedin with a 3rd party, you do the same. And theyy come up with a verdict. Here is a tip btw. I shared my opinion, you shared yours. Insulting my intelligence makes it no wonder you lived in tents. It is disrespectful. I guess life has yet to kick vulgarity and lack of class out of the tent boy, did it?