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rikafurude21 5 days ago

Why is it so hard for americans to accept that china makes great tech without coping about "le CCP spyware!" - it seems so absurd, like why would the CCP want to know the heart rate of the type of guy who buys a 16 pound smartwatch? Why dont americans create 16 pound smartwatches?

phantomathkg 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Because APT will use any devices to infiltrate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSaix1C-UMI

sincerely 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Why dont americans create 16 pound smartwatches?

Because labor is much more expensive in America. This is not a mystery

ericwood 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Labor is a factor but it helps to have the insane manufacturing synergies they have where almost all of the parts are made down the road from you.

monooso 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But American companies make their smartwatches in China.

recursive 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think that's enough to explain it. What's the ratio of labor costs?

Palomides 5 days ago | parent [-]

$15/hour in the US vs $2/hour in China

recursive 4 days ago | parent [-]

That would put an upper bound of 120 pounds for the USA manufactured watch with zero materials cost and all labor.

rikafurude21 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, highly inflated e-mail job economy does that to you.

Yeul 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Don't worry god emperor Trump will fix that.

No more safety and environmental regulations. Children can work full time. Union bosses get sent to the gulag. Forced labor camps for the homeless and criminals.

AndyMcConachie 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because sinophobia, or put in a more crass way, racism, imperialism, and patriotism.

Why should I care if the Communinst Party of China is spying on me? They can't get at me. I have no connection to China. I have no property there and don't know anyone there. What are they going to do to me?

Bottom line is that everyone on the planet should be concerned with their own government's intelligence angencies more than any others. It's the people who can get at you in meatspace that you need to worry about.

secondcoming 5 days ago | parent [-]

They might not care that much about YOU unless you try to enter China at some point in your life.

But they REALLY care about the activites of Chinese people living abroad.

The CCP was operating secret 'police stations' in the UK and most likely elsewhere outside of their jurisdiction.

[0] https://news.stv.tv/west-central/chinese-secret-police-stati...

stefantalpalaru 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

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FirmwareBurner 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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arcanemachiner 5 days ago | parent [-]

Yes. Both are bad.

jgalt212 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

China hopes that if they sell enough some will end up on the wrists of military or intelligence personnel, or more likely the family members of such people.

xbmcuser 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

They don't need to do that they can just buy and pay american politicians directly just like Israel does.

rikafurude21 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You think american military or intelligence personnel is gonna go on aliexpress to buy a 16 dollar smartwatch?

edent 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, probably. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42853072

FirmwareBurner 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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jgalt212 5 days ago | parent [-]

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tomhow 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Please avoid swipes on HN, even if others have posted hostile comments. Flag the comment instead, and if you like, email us so we can take action.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

FirmwareBurner 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Care to be more specific with the examples from history you mean, with you being so smart and all?

@dang, since when it's allowed on HN to insult users without getting flagged?

arcanemachiner 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Tagging doesn't do anything on HN.

tomhow 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The comment is flagged and killed and I'm now posting them a warning, but you should email us, not tag. You should also avoid swipes like "The mental gymnastics i read on HN is mind boggling stupid", which was obviously an attack on the parent commenter and the broader community, if you want to demonstrate that you care about the guidelines.