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ambicapter 4 days ago

What is sickeningly upsetting is how difficult it seems to be for our news organizations and talking heads to talk openly about this fact.

93po 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

its not difficult - it's that they very clearly HATE class consciousness. just look back at occupy wallstreet. it got coverage that was nearly universally mocking it and sneering at it, and the second they were able to ignore it and pretend it didnt exist anymore, corporate news moved on.

everything is framed as us-vs-them in corporate news, and its usually one political party against another, and it's usually for stuff that doesn't impact us nearly as much as wealth and income inequality, campaign finance reform, or general election methodology reform. this is why establishment hated bernie, it's one of his biggest talking points.

corporate news is garbage, its owned by billionaires literally to control the narrative. you think bezos bought WaPo to make money? of course not, it's a money pit.

lurk2 4 days ago | parent [-]

> it got coverage that was nearly universally mocking it and sneering at it, and the second they were able to ignore it and pretend it didnt exist anymore, corporate news moved on.

This is exactly how I remember the coverage, but it’s notable that these people tied their own noose:

Occupy Richmond 10/6/11 Intro to "Progressive Stack" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCwhlZtHhWs

The leadership then largely went along for the ride in the technology and corporate finance sectors by electing to become a pseudo-priesthood under the banner of DEI. A lot of money got siphoned off by these people during the boom in exchange for countersignalling the anti-corporate sentiment prevalent among progressive coalitions at the time. This declined somewhat during the latter half of the 2010s after the tech companies started censoring conservatives (“They’re a private company, they can do whatever they want.”), and then the trend reversed when Biden’s senility became obvious, and the tech companies pivoted to Trump and started (disingenuously) signalling that they were anti-woke. In a lot of ways, Peter Thiel’s entire model of hiring ostensibly right-wing influencers (while himself being a homosexual immigrant) mirrors that of woke capital 10 years prior.

lanfeust6 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Real wages are up and quality of life is on average better than it's ever been. But news organizations do in fact report on self-reported data periodically like living paycheck-to-paycheck (which just means they spend everything and don't save).

Self-reported sentiments about stress are not useful. Rich boomers who voted for Trump would take this poll and just as easily say the cost of groceries is a major source of stress.

slater 4 days ago | parent [-]

> which just means they spend everything and don't save

Here, lemme fix that for you:

"Which means everything costs too much and they can't save because they can't earn a livable wage thanks to everything going to the top 1%"

lanfeust6 4 days ago | parent [-]

Except the data doesn't reflect that at all. Americans on average are among the richest people in the world. People who make the median income just often spend it all.

Housing is an issue, primarily because people want detached homes and we don't build enough of anything including condensed or mixed-density builds. Aside from that people are obviously still spending. Tech and gadgets, cars, restaurants etc.