| ▲ | xlii 6 days ago |
| If someone wants to stole the car they will steal it. Stealing a car is not the same as stealing a candy. In Europe all parts are marked so it takes significant effort to sell or modify such cars. It's not like people steal them and then sell it at yard sales. As for the "beaters": shortly after Russian invasion on Ukraine plenty of cars were stolen in Poland. Not the expensive kind but usually 10-30 years old cars with big and reliable engines (V6, V8). I know 6 people that had Jeeps Grand Cherokee stolen (different generations). My uncle wanted to renovate Isuzu Rodeo with completely rusty frame but V6 engine of a value of like 300€ and it was stolen too. And it happened ~1 month after it started. |
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| ▲ | lupusreal 6 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| People stealing cars to sell or chop them up for profit is less of a problem than people stealing cars so they can commit violent crimes with them. |
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| ▲ | CyberDildonics 6 days ago | parent [-] | | Based on what data? | | |
| ▲ | lupusreal 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Based on the "data" of human lives being worth more than cars. WTF! | | |
| ▲ | gertlex 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm probably completely missing the (presumably relatively common) scenarios you have in mind where stolen cars are used for violent crimes. (I'm assuming reckless joyriding isn't what you're referring to as "violent crime"; maybe that's my issue) | | |
| ▲ | Nicook 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | If you want to go commit a violent crime, and have motorized transport, and not be caught. Then it is helpful to have a vehicle that is not tied to you. | |
| ▲ | kayodelycaon 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Happens in places like New Orleans. Some gang members steal a car, go shoot up a neighborhood, and ditch the car. | |
| ▲ | lupusreal 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I'm assuming reckless joyriding isn't what you're referring to as "violent crime" It is, and worse. There have been numerous cases of scumbag teenager stealing cars and then crashing them into people, mostly by accident but often enough on purpose. They also use the cars for gangbanging shit since they know the car can't be traced back to them. A lot of this stuff wouldn't be happening if cars weren't so easy to steal. There is a casual accessibility to stealing certain cars which makes it an easier crime to commit than carjacking (parked cars aren't witnesses, parked cars won't fight back or pull a gun of their own, parked cars won't try to run you over, etc.) Once the car is stolen, other impromptu violence seems and becomes easier. |
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| ▲ | CyberDildonics 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Then why are you worried about cars, worry about murders. | | |
| ▲ | lupusreal 5 days ago | parent [-] | | That's like asking why people are concerned about easily available guns. Because they facilitate murders! Seriously, stop being deliberately obtuse. | | |
| ▲ | CyberDildonics 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Shouldn't we be more worried about nuclear weapons than guns, it's human lives after all. | | |
| ▲ | lupusreal 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Again with the deliberately obtuse routine. | | |
| ▲ | CyberDildonics 3 days ago | parent [-] | | What's wrong with that? If the rate that something happens doesn't matter, then we should ignore everything except for the most severe problem. |
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| ▲ | BobaFloutist 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | By "less of a problem" they don't mean "doesn't happen as much," they mean "doesn't matter as much." | | |
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| ▲ | tekknik 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > In Europe all parts are marked so it takes significant effort to sell or modify such cars. It's not like people steal them and then sell it at yard sales. This is the same in the US, at least for the expensive parts. They won’t part it out or even sell it in your country, it gets shipped out to another country where your laws don’t apply. |
