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| ▲ | darkwater 8 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Pre-Spotify (and pre-iPod) there were plenty of cheap MP3 players that also supported Ogg Vorbis. I owned one, for example. Obviously MP3 was THE standard, but Vorbis reached a good adoption HW wise (basically because it was free as in beer to implement) |
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| ▲ | scott_w 8 days ago | parent [-] | | I also owned one but I had to look for it. It certainly wasn’t “widely supported.” | | |
| ▲ | darkwater 8 days ago | parent [-] | | Have a look at audio hardware from 10-15 ago (so long after the mp3 player wave ended in first world countries) but basically everything that plays mp3 plays ogg vorbis as well. | | |
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| ▲ | notpushkin 8 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Of course, but this is not what I’d call “never got wide support”. |
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| ▲ | scott_w 8 days ago | parent [-] | | So you’d say that a format that most consumers couldn’t use (because only a few devices could play it) is “widely supported?” | | |
| ▲ | nullc 8 days ago | parent [-] | | There is a lot more audio codecs embedded in other things than there ever were personal music players, by orders of magnitude. Vorbis was ubiquitous in video games, for example. Personal music players had the issue that they had to have MP3 due to market forces, so offering Vorbis didn't save them any money. There were also some design decisions in Vorbis that made it a little more annoying to support on some very limited hardware than MP3. | | |
| ▲ | scott_w 8 days ago | parent [-] | | I couldn’t take my PlayStation to school. | | |
| ▲ | notpushkin 8 days ago | parent [-] | | Sure, but you can’t just say “Vorbis wasn’t widely used for music piracy, so it never gained wide support”. | | |
| ▲ | scott_w 8 days ago | parent [-] | | I never said anything about piracy. Plenty of teenagers knew how to rip CDs onto their MP3 players, or had a friend who could do it for them. |
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| ▲ | account42 8 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I had an MP3 player that did Vorbis. |
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