This will condition children to think this sort of surveillance is normal, and when they’re adults the ones who think it kept them safe from mass shootings will try and advocate using our existing mass-surveillance powers to proactively monitor everyone like this. Please, we need to stop terrifying children with this lazy oppression, this is not worth the damage to society we’re causing by conditioning kids this way.

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password321 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Half the point of school has always been to condition them to behave and think a certain way for adulthood.

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astura 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This sort of surveillance is normal, though. Most platforms are monitored for threats of violence. Are you thinking the outcome would have been much different if she threatened to kill Mexicans on Teams at work instead?

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malwrar 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The child in OP sounds to me like she thought she was making a bad-taste joke in a private forum, and was shocked when it promptly led to an entanglement with an unfeeling system who was looking over her shoulder. I’ve never threatened to kill anyone in my work DMs, but I’ve definitely written stuff that I wouldn’t post in public threads. I think we all to some degree use these “private” systems this way until it burns us, only then do we adjust. Privacy is much more a feeling than a technical reality.

In that sense, it isn’t “normal”, it’s just “something that’s happening in theory but eh maybe it only affects scary people or whatever idk”. I feel like this tolerance we’re developing for outside forces invading “private” spaces, nominally for these loose justifications of harm reduction, will be what _actually does_ make it normal.

Once it’s truly normal, and people think it’s what keeps them safe from mass shootings or whatever, it will be too late to get rid of it. I think fear and normalcy will motivate its spread to places beyond school chat platforms and Snapchat.

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giantg2 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

"Are you thinking the outcome would have been much different if she threatened to kill Mexicans on Teams at work instead?"

Yeah, she'd probably get fired but law enforcement wouldn't get called because there was no specific or credible threat and the company doesn't have the mandatory reporting requirements that the school does.

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potato3732842 5 days ago | parent [-]

Not only does the company not have mandatory reporting, it has a financial incentive not to piss away the man hours of it's HR team on stuff that's obviously bullshit.

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		That and avoid negative PR.

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assword 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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