That’s a lot of anger without a substantial argument. For Apple users, for example, the user experience is very smooth and the mental model is “I use iCloud to store my passcode just like I use iCloud to store my passwords”. If you use 1Password, you’re changing iCloud for 1Password instead.

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emushack 9 days ago | parent [-]

"You lost me the moment you mentioned iCloud". At least that's the way the majority of people I know react to this line of thinking. The "cloud" is still mysterious and complicated to a good number of people. Passwords are easy to understand.

	▲	acdha 9 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Most Apple users are used to using their account for everything - that’s how they buy apps, use things like music or photos, etc. and, of course, passwords. Switching to passkeys doesn’t change that much other than being a bit faster.
	▲	otterley 9 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Most people use the cloud without even knowing it. If you instead say it’s seamlessly replicated among all your devices, that is a good enough explanation and conveys the benefits to customers.
	▲	emushack 8 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yeah that's right! If you simply say that this syncs to all my devices, it papers over, or abstracts if you will, the complexity of: secure enclaves/TPMs, symmetric sync keys wrapping asymmetrically encrypted passkeys, resident keys that support backup, keys that do NOT support backup, how biometrics are used, etc. etc. With a password, I can write it down on a piece of paper and put it in my safe. One of these systems is not like the other.