Ollama is great but I feel like Georgi Gerganov deserves way more credit for llama.cpp.

He (almost) single-handedly brought LLMs to the masses.

With the latest news of some AI engineers' compensation reaching up to a billion dollars, feels a bit unfair that Georgi is not getting a much larger slice of the pie.

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mrs6969 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

Agreed. Ollama itself is kind a wrapper around llamacpp anyway. Feel like the real guy is not included to the process.

Now I am going to go and write a wrapper around llamacpp, that is only open source, truly local.

How can I trust ollama to not to sell my data.

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Patrick_Devine 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

Ollama only uses llamacpp for running legacy models. gpt-oss runs entirely in the ollama engine.

You don't need to use Turbo mode; it's just there for people who don't have capable enough GPUs.

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rafram 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Ollama is not a wrapper around llama.cpp anymore, at least for multimodal models (not sure about others). They have their own engine: https://ollama.com/blog/multimodal-models

	▲	iphone_elegance 7 days ago \| parent [-]
		looks like the backend is ggml, am I missing something? same diff

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benreesman 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

`ggerganov` is one of the most under-rated and under-appreciated hackers maybe ever. His name belongs next to like Carmack and other people who made a new thing happen on PCs. And don't forget the shout out to `TheBloke` who like single-handedly bootstrapped the GGUF ecosystem of useful model quants (I think he had a grant from pmarca or something like that, so props to that too).

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freedomben 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is Georgi landing any of those big-time money jobs? I could see a conflict-of-interest given his involvment with llama.cpp, but I would think he'd be well positioned for something like that

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apwell23 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

https://ggml.ai/

> ggml.ai is a company founded by Georgi Gerganov to support the development of ggml. Nat Friedman and Daniel Gross provided the pre-seed funding.

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moralestapia 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

(This is mere speculation)

I think he's happy doing his own thing.

But then, if someone came in with a billion ... who wouldn't give it a thought?

	▲	webdevver 7 days ago \| parent [-]
		really a billion bucks is far too much, that is beyond the curve. $50M, now thats just perfect. you're retired, nor burdened with a huge responsibility

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am17an 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Seriously, people astroturfing this thread by saying ollama has a new engine. It literally is the same engine that llama.cpp uses and georgi and slaren maintain! VC funding will make people so dishonest and just plain grifters

	▲	guipsp 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		No one is astroturfing. You cannot run any model with just GGML. It's a tensor library. Yes, it adds value, but I don't think that saying that ollama also does is unfair.