Haskell seems pretty dead as well. Good think php has another option for line noise though.

What makes you believe Haskell is dead or even dying? New versions of GHC are coming out, and in my experience, developing Haskell has never been smoother (that’s not to say it is completely smooth).

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munificent 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

Compare the Redmonk rankings in 2020 to 2025:

https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2020/02/28/language-rankings-1-2...

https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2025/06/18/language-rankings-1-2...

I think of languages as falling in roughly 3 popularity buckets:

1. A dominant conservative choice. These are ones you never have to justify to your CTO, the "no one ever got fired for buying IBM" languages. That's Java, Python, etc.

2. A well-known but deliberate choice. These are the languages where there is enough ecosystem and knowledge to be able to justify choosing them, but where doing so still feels like a deliberate engineering choice with some trade-offs and risk. Or languages where they are a dominant choice in one domain but less so in others. Ruby, Scala, Swift, Kotlin.

3. Everything else. These are the ones you'd have to fight to use professionally. They are either new and innovative or old and dying.

In 2020, Haskell was close to Kotlin, Rust, and Dart. They were in the 3rd bucket but their vector pointed towards the second. In 2025, Kotlin and Dart have pulled ahead into the second bucket, but Haskell is moving in the other direction. It's behind Perl, and Perl itself is not exactly doing great.

None of this is to say that Haskell is a bad language. There are many wonderful languages that aren't widely used. Popularity is hard and hinges on many extrinsic factors more than the merits of the language itself. Otherwise JavaScript wouldn't be at the top of the list.

	▲	instig007 7 days ago \| parent [-]
		> In 2020, Haskell was close to Kotlin, Rust, and Dart. [...] In 2025, Kotlin and Dart have pulled ahead into the second bucket, but Haskell is moving in the other direction. > It's behind Perl, and Perl itself is not exactly doing great. Your comment reminded me of gamers who "play games" by watching "letsplay" videos on youtube.

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epolanski 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And yet, while PHPs, Javas, and even nicher/newer languages like Kotlin, Clojure or Scala have plenty of killer software (software that makes it worth learning a language just to use that library/framework) Haskell has none after 30 years. Zero.

Mind you, I know and like Haskell, but its issues are highly tied to the failure of the simple haskell initiative (also the dreadful state of its tooling).

	▲	gylterud 7 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There are lots of great libraries, like repa, servant, megaparsec, gloss, yampa… as well as bindings to lots of standard stuff. I consider parsing to be one of Haskell’s killer strengths and I would definitely use it to write a compiler. There is also some popular user facing software like Pandoc, written in Haskell. And companies using it internally.
	▲	milutinovici 7 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		It has PostgREST, which is the heart of supabase
	▲	dmead 7 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		yea I agree. haskell was my primary language for several years in the 00s. it's since had almost zero industry uptake. Don't come at me with jane street or the one off startup. I thought for a while I'd be able to focus on getting jobs that liked haskell. it never happened.
	▲	myko 7 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I will not stand for this Xmonad slander
	▲	instig007 7 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> also the dreadful state of its tooling this is plain and unsubstantiated FUD > Haskell has none after 30 years > I know Haskell I doubt it

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dmead 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

it's easy to learn and speak latin as well.

	▲	gylterud 7 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Yes, but there is very little modern latin slang. While GHC gives us great new extensions of Haskell quite often.
	▲	1-more 7 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Latin never paid my mortgage. Helped on the SATs though.