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k8si 8 days ago

Maybe this is a nitpick but CoNLL NER is not a "challenging task". Even pre-LLM systems were getting >90 F1 on that as far back as 2016.

Also, just in case people want to lit review further on this topic: they call their method "programmatic data curation" but I believe this approach is also called model distillation and/or student-teacher training.

GabrielBianconi 8 days ago | parent [-]

Thanks for the feedback!

We chose a set of tasks with different levels of complexity to see how this approach would scale. For LLMs, the "challenge" with NER is not the task itself but the arbitrariness of the labels in the dataset. I agree it's still much simpler than the other tasks we present (agentic RAG, agentic tool use, maze navigation).

There are definitely strong parallels to model distillation and student-teacher training, with the primary difference being that we don't simply take all the data from the larger model but rather filter the dataset based on metrics from the environment. In the "Does curation even matter?" section, we show that this generally improves the result by a good margin.

We link to Vicuna, which might be the closest reference as prior art: https://lmsys.org/blog/2023-03-30-vicuna/

Thanks!