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AnimalMuppet 6 days ago

Unless it's a government job, the interviewers don't have guns. They just have money. Nobody said I have to talk to them.

simpaticoder 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

There is an ongoing tension between the idea that our behavior is shaped by the systems around us and the belief that it stems solely from our personal choices. The truth is, it’s never one or the other exclusively - both factors play a role. Nobody says you have to eat processed food, but when 90% of the food available to you (and 100% of the inexpensive food) is processed, it's misleading to argue that eating processed food is a personal problem. The same applies to AI interviews, or any number of other issues.

throwawayoldie 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

There's a third possibility: collective action. It's easy to forget this, because the powers that be have been working hard for many decades to denigrate it.

miroljub 6 days ago | parent [-]

Collective action needs to come from somewhere. In a nation of destroyed extended family, primary family, racial or national identity, with no religion, workers unions, or any other sense of community, where everyone is a snowflake individual, it's pretty impossible that a group of people will ever form a collective capable of doing any actions.

Now, think about it why we were conditioned from the ground up to forefeit any connections with other people and basically bared of forming high trust communities.

pydry 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's part of the american capitalist dynamic to protect capital by reframing systemic societal problems to be exclusively issues of personal responsibility.

It's largely why Americans are so, so fat compared to other nations.

FirmwareBurner 6 days ago | parent [-]

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throwaway7783 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Please search for "food deserts"

jodrellblank 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

because as we know, people are not influenced by society at all. Every man is an island. Marketing doesn't work. Lobbying doesn't work. Manipulation doesn't work. Nobody gets radicalised.

FirmwareBurner 6 days ago | parent [-]

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nosianu 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

You are not immune to marketing.

I thought that too. Decades ago, when I left home for university I had to do my own laundry. That means buying detergent.

I had always known as obvious that the commercials for that stuff were so bad that there was zero chance it would influence me.

At the supermarket checkout I noticed I had the brand name detergent my basket, not the much cheaper no-name brand. Because subconsciously, it DOES work to hear those brand names again and again, no matter how stupid the commercials look. I felt enlightened.

FirmwareBurner 6 days ago | parent [-]

>You are not immune to marketing.

Don't speak for me please. We are not the same. I just buy the cheap detergent. I never end up with expensive shit in my basket just because of the brand.

nosianu 5 days ago | parent [-]

You don't even understand the point I made, so yes, I'm certainly not speaking for you.

jodrellblank 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It does!

> "The prevalence of overweight and obesity is rising dramatically in children as well as in adults. Between 1975 and 2016, the prevalence of obesity in Europe rose 138%, with a 21% rise between 2006 and 2016.1 The prevalence of overweight rose by 51% between 1975 and 2016, and by 8% between 2006 and 2016. It is expected that by 2030, over half of Europe will live with obesity – up to 89% in some countries. No Member State is on track to reach the target of halting the rise in obesity by 2025" - https://www.eufic.org/en/healthy-living/article/europes-obes...

> "Once considered a high-income country problem, overweight is on the rise in low- and middle-income countries. In Africa, the number of overweight children under 5 years has increased by nearly 12.1% since 2000. Almost half of the children under 5 years who were overweight or living with obesity in 2024 lived in Asia." - https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and...

Americans are at the forefront of driving to the drive through for a McSuperSize meal, and wealthy enough to eat that every day. Mexico has an obesity crisis heavily driven by the Coca Cola company.

> "The Rothschilds are using 5G to signal my brain that I must not stop until I reach the bottom of the XXL bag of Costco potato chips."

Yes, there are no constant JustEat or Deliveroo or McDonalds adverts, no CocaCola adverts connecting Coke with Christmas and fun, no Pepsi adverts connecting Pepsi with attractive women draping themselves over sports cars, nothing.

> "Edit: @jodrellblank damn, then I guess I stand corrected. Am I the only one immune to marketing then?"

No, you're one of many people who believes they are immune to marketing. That $350Bn annual spend on advertising[1] in the USA is not there for a laugh. What's the betting you could answer a whole lot of questions like "which company had the 'why 1984 won't be like 1984' and 'think different'" adverts? Which fast food company has a clown as its mascot? Which fast food company has a southern Colonel as their mascot? Which drink was "the choice of a new generation"? Name an insurance company or a bank that you've heard of but never used? Name a shop you've heard of but never been to? Complete the jingle: "head-on, apply <...>"? If you were immune to advertising, you wouldn't be able to picture any company logo, signboard, complete any jingle, name any product or service or shop you hadn't researched or heard of from a friend. Drive past a dentist every day on your way to work and recognise their signboard because you've seen it before? Not immune to advertising. Recognise where you are by the giant Walmart sign? Not immune to advertising. Turn off the TV when you hear the start of a jingle you remember and dislike? Not immune to advertising. Coworker drives a <brand> and you know because of the logo? Not immune to advertising.

[1] https://www.ibisworld.com/united-states/bed/total-advertisin...

FirmwareBurner 6 days ago | parent [-]

>No, you're one of many people who believes they are immune to marketing.

Then why am I not eating McDs and Coke? Could it be that some people have developed self control?

jodrellblank 3 days ago | parent [-]

Did you develop self control? As a conscious choice? Are you continuously tempted to eat McD's and drink Coke and contiunuously pushing back on it? Is it a constant, moment by moment pressure you are putting endless effort into resisting?

Or do you just magically not want to, you don't know why, you never worked for it or earned it, but you're boasting about it anyway?

95014_refugee 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

See also “information desert” and ask yourself why a survival-oriented species might behave in this fashion.

Or don’t, it’s why they do.

Levitz 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Nobody said I have to talk to them.

My bank account does.

Seriously though, I don't think this dynamic arises when people have choices, sure, but specifically in the land of job seeking the relationship is brutally asymmetric a lot of the time. People need jobs. One need only to look at the terrible current state of "send us your CV, also fill up our form in our website, also yeah we might sell your info".

If the cost of interviewing drops to close to 0 for a company, we can expect to see interviews being part of the process along with everything else. Juniors have it bad and they might just get it worse.

throwawayoldie 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I take your point, but whose side do you think the government is on? Ours?

jodrellblank 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> "Nobody said I have to talk to them."

You don't need money? NEED money, like your life depends on money to keep surviving? 'cos most people do and don't have your luxurious options.

AnimalMuppet 6 days ago | parent [-]

I need money. I don't need money from a job that makes me interview with an AI. There's lots of other places.

flohofwoe 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They don't have guns - yet ;)

spauldo 6 days ago | parent [-]

More like they don't have guns any more.

Go back a hundred years, you can see what went on when they did. And the government was right there with them.

ttemPumpinRary 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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