Long term stable tariffs yes. But you can't pretend like trumps tariffs were not done in the worst way possible?

Trump uses wild % amounts as a negotiation tactic. Is it the best way to do it? I don’t know. You can’t argue though that it does force the other side to come quickly to negotiation table to talk about the deal. So, if the goal is to get the deal now, then it’s effective. If the goal is something else, then it’s not a good tactic.

I do not have enough information to definitely say whether it’s good or bad. Most of the things in life are neither because they have good side effects, and bad side effects to them. So, I think looking for a “good only” solution is a loosing strategy.

	▲	amanaplanacanal 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I'm confused. Is the goal the get manufacturing back in the US, or to make new trade deals? I've heard both things. Oh, and something about fentanyl coming in from Canada? Alright I'm not sure how tariffs would stop that.
	▲	agent_turtle 3 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		> I do not have enough information to definitely say whether it’s good or bad. Usually when I don't have enough information on an issue, I take it upon myself to learn more about it before stating an opinion. > Most of the things in life are neither because they have good side effects, and bad side effects to them. You don't have to be a doctor to understand that the downside of cancer probably outweighs the upside of not having to save for retirement. Economic instability is the cancer in this metaphor, and the cause of it is Trump changing his mind on tariff rates every other day. Economists, like doctors, are trained on how to treat this illness, and all of them are saying "stop doing that". Trump can either listen to the experts or continue on his path, destroying the American economy in the process.
	▲	fireflash38 3 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You say we need tariffs to bring manufacturing back. Then you turn around and say the tariffs aren't the point, it's the deal. You even said it was silly to bet on announced tariffs elsewhere. If the tariffs are necessary to bring manufacturing back full stop, then you don't need to "make a deal". If it's just a tool to make a deal, then they're not necessary! You just keep moving those goalposts.
	▲	Hikikomori 3 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Negotiate what? You realize they can just set it right? If it was a long term strategy they would just set a fixed % and leave it at that, otherwise companies cannot make any plans.