| ▲ | bartvk 13 hours ago |
| I agree but every now and then, he comes with truly exhausting things. Like protectors being not worth it. https://youtu.be/nINIJ1cAbYM |
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| ▲ | slau 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Fully agreed. I t-boned a car that cut me off, doing approximately 60-80 km/h. My shoulder dented the car's roof through the door frame. I went flying through the air and landed on my back, on cement-cast stones protruding slightly from the cement (the decorative edge of the roundabout). I walked out of the hospital a couple of days later. I wouldn't have been walking then, nor today, if it wasn't for the protective shoulder pads and spine protection in my jacket. It took about 18 months of physiotherapy to stand and walk normally again, but still. Edit: I realise this is a POV with n=1, but it convinced me. |
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| ▲ | bartvk 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Please disregard user mawr. Fact is, the body armor protected you. I’m happy you’re able to stand and walk again. One of my buddies also got hit by a car and had a similar story. Nowadays I ride with a jacket with integrated airbag. Fantastic stuff. Also, check out the new Diablo armor from D3O. | |
| ▲ | Mawr 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | unaindz 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I agree with you on the "Your story doesn't prove armor saved you?" But your second argument about him being to blame for the accident...
Like sure, you can always be more safe, more alert. But eventually you are gonna make a mistake no matter how much you try not to. And even if you do everything perfectly any number of unexpected things could happen. "You only got to fuck up once. Be a little slow, be a little late. Just once. And how you ain’t gonna never be slow, never be late? You can’t plan for no shit like this, man. It’s life." | |
| ▲ | DiggyJohnson 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The tone of this reply and the accusation of dishonesty is out of line with the HN guidelines. You could have easily edited this comment to be inquisitive and conversational. The last sentence is ridiculous. You don’t know any of these things. |
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| ▲ | JKCalhoun 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I've seen a few of his videos — I think I am more put off by his lack of nuance. This is the RIGHT thing and all other opinions are idiotic. |
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| ▲ | kryogen1c 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > truly exhausting things. Like protectors being not worth it. What do you mean? The video is very convincing, I don't see a hole in the logic. |
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| ▲ | bzz01 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | This video has a bunch of cherry picking results and sound bites from already underpowered studies. |
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| ▲ | deelowe 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Many in the racing community share his opinions. All these things seem to accomplish is making you hot. |
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| ▲ | dathinab 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | but there is a huge difference between: 1) racing, and normal motorcycle use -- like the kind of accidents you run into commonly differ hugely 2) you being able to afford a end of the line product or being very budged constrained and this are two important aspects completely ignored in this discussion | |
| ▲ | sgt 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's partly true. I used to ride dirt bikes with full protection everywhere and it just makes you hot, I went to thinner protection and with more focus on getting the basics right: protect your feet at all costs, and protect your head. Aside from that, you're mostly fine. I still wear some light armor on knees and upper body though. | | |
| ▲ | ManuelKiessling 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Why are the feet so important? | | |
| ▲ | sgt 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Because if you fall on dirt, there is a big risk you will mess up your feet or ankles without proper boots that protect them. | |
| ▲ | LTL_FTC 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Well, I rode on the road but can imagine the same goes for off-road, but the right pair of boots makes a huge difference in one’s confidence and ability to securely put one’s foot down at a stop, especially if it’s a bit slick from oil, or loose debris. That, and you can imagine an object hitting your foot while flying down the highway at 80mph feels very different when you’re wearing riding boots vs. wearing vans. Then there’s the whole, sliding on assault aspect. | |
| ▲ | guenthert 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Well, perhaps not more important than other body parts, but more likely to be injured. Every basic motorcycle safety class will urge you to get good boots. I just wished I had heeded that advise in time instead of buying them after my first crash ;-/ |
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| ▲ | ttemPumpinRary 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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