> It's possible to make no mistake and still lose.

Sure, no doubt about that. But again, if people (60% of the riders in my case) manage to never be in an accident, and that's including a wide range of people, then surely the odds are greater of never being in an accident if you're careful.

Still, sucks she had that experience. But it's important to realize that for every accident, there are thousands of people riding every day without a single accident in their life. But of course it's harder to think about that when you had someone in a accident and that person is close to you, I understand that.

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lloeki 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think anyone's disputing that being careful increases your odds of avoiding accidents.

Instead what I wanted to call out is that even if infinitely careful and drive defensively without fail you can still get into an accident, and you don't need to be hunted down or intentionally collided into+.

Ultimately at a large enough scale it's all about odds, and it takes but one occurrence to go from "I've been fine so far" to "my life is upended".

And like all statistical things, with a low enough sample size you're going to get an unbalanced result one way or the other.

+ On that note I wish drivers were made aware of CBDR

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_bearing,_decreasing...

	▲	diggan 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Instead what I wanted to call out is that even if infinitely careful and drive defensively without fail you can still get into an accident, and you don't need to be hunted down or intentionally collided into+. And again, seems to be massively different depending on the country. Locally, ~60% of motorcycle drivers claim to never have been in any accident, and that's including even careless people, so surely the claims of "even careful motorbike drivers will be in a accident" are over-exaggerated.

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theshackleford 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> (60% of the riders in my case)

60% of the riders still alive?