Most of the guys in the LB project don't use LLM's, even though it extremely spec-driven, because C++ is not great with AI for some reason.

▲

hyperbolablabla 5 days ago | parent [-]

But Andreas does fairly heavily, if you watch his code VODs you see that he leans on copilot often.

▲

SpecialistK 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I haven't watched the VODs myself but I am curious as to the nature of the Copilot use - is it a fancy autocomplete, a 2nd look at code he's already written, or is it generating large parts of the code?

The SerenityOS project literally has "NIH syndrome" at its core ["the SerenityOS project, which has a strong culture of writing everything from scratch.", https://ladybird.org/#faq] so I would expect a degree of skepticism of AI code generation.

But there was the post semi-recently about Cloudflare developers shipping a mostly-AI-generated software, overseen by real devs [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44159166] Perhaps Andreas' use of Copilot is a similar thing, where he saves keystrokes and finds errors in the generated output with his own experience. I'll go watch some VODs.

▲

xdfgh1112 4 days ago | parent [-]

Most of it was written without LLMs for that reason, but now Ladybird is its own project, the NIH focus has largely gone away. They are using a lot of third party code now. Their mission is compete with Chrome, not be 100% NIH.

▲

lttlrck 4 days ago | parent [-]

With "No code from other browsers" which in a browser must mean most of the code is largely written from scratch?

	▲	xdfgh1112 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		The original project did everything from scratch. Video/audio decoding, SSL, font rendering, etc. a huge portion of the code. They're still not using existing browser code because being an independent implementation of the web standards is a key goal. They've found bugs in the standard just by implementing it.

▲

rzzzt 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

With some "Thank you, Copilot"-s sprinkled in to spare him in the robot uprising universe.