>> there is no way to write a appealing website without Javascript.

This has always made me wonder if anybody really builds anything from scratch any more. With so many frameworks, even for basic static sites, I wonder who's out there writing HTML, CSS and JS from scratch.

Or is something that has been regulated to the dustbin of history?

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Waterluvian 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'm sure some do.

I've seen someone build furniture from literal trees and wooden tools. I guess they didn't smelt their own metal, but they're not using power tools. Is that a viable business? probably for a very small bespoke traditional furniture audience. Most furniture these days is built using layers upon layers of technology. (and just like with the Web, people, including myself, have strong opinions on furniture quality and source)

	▲	at-fates-hands 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		When I was in college studying to be an anthropologist, of one my professors told about his TA who just happened to be studying one of the local Mennonite groups and they were complaining when the wheels on their buggies and other stuff would break or go bad, they really didn't have any local carpenters who could or would help them. It was kind of a big issue in their communities. He ended up doing a two year apprenticeship to learn how to hand make wheels and other instruments they needed. Before he graduated, he already had a very lucrative niche company and woodworking business selling his wares and delivering them to the families. There is still a strong demand for well built wood furniture but most people never realize there are economies that rely on this stuff for their livelihood.

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rikroots 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All of my canvas library's demo pages are hand-coded HTML, CSS and JS. Including the site navigation. Is it worth the effort? Probably not; I just do it this way because I'm too lazy to pull together a sensible tool chain.

https://scrawl-v8.rikweb.org.uk/demo/index.html

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lelanthran 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> With so many frameworks, even for basic static sites, I wonder who's out there writing HTML, CSS and JS from scratch.

I do it, for my blog at least.

However, I use a proprietary framework of my own for commercial software development with the only f/end dependency being materialcss (although, I won't be using that soon, either). Backend dependency is PostgreSQL.

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recursive 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would if I was building something for my own purposes. And I wouldn't claim it to be the most efficient or beautiful. But if I did it for my own purposes, I wouldn't need to justify it. I just like the process.

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MrGilbert 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Shameless plug: My own website[1] is mostly handwritten, although I use PicoCSS as a CSS framework.

[1]: https://g5t.de

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jv22222 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I’m building a Google docs style platform from scratch. No js html css libs of any kind. (But also, not canvas, it does use contenteditable)