That's a bad analogy. Most people including me do expect that their "public" data is used for AI training. I mean based on the ads everyone gets, most people know and expect completely well that anything they post online would be used in AI.

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malfist 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Are you trying to argue that 10 years ago when I uploaded my resume to linkedin, that I should have known it'd be used for AI training?

Or that teenager that signed up to facebook should know that the embarrassing things they're posting is going to train AI and is, as you called it, public?

What about the blog I started 25 years ago and then took down but it lives in the geocities archive. Was I supposed to know it'd go to an AI overlord corporation when I was in middle school writing about dragon photos I found on google?

And we're not even getting into data breaches, or something that was uploaded as private and then sold when the corporation changed their privacy policy decades after it was uploaded.

It's not a bad analogy when you don't give all the graces to corporations and none to the exploited.

	▲	danielmarkbruce 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		"Corporations".... you gave access to the whole world, including criminals.

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JohnFen 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Most people including me do expect that their "public" data is used for AI training.

Based on what ordinary people have been saying, I don't think this is true. Or, maybe it's true now that the cat is out of the bag, but I don't think most people expected this before.

Most tech-oriented people did, of course, but we're a small minority. And even amongst our subculture, a lot of people didn't see this abuse coming. I didn't, or I would have removed all of my websites from the public web years earlier than I did.

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YetAnotherNick 6 days ago | parent [-]

> Most tech-oriented people did

In fact it's the opposite. People who aren't into tech thinks Instagram is listening to them 24*7 to show feed and ads. There was even a hoax near my area among elderly groups that Whatsapp is using profile photo in illegal activity and many people removed their photo one time.

> I didn't, or I would have removed all of my websites from the public web years earlier than I did.

Your comment is public information. In fact posting anything in HN is a sure shot way to giving your content for AI training.

	▲	JohnFen 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		> People who aren't into tech thinks Instagram is listening to them 24*7 to show feed and ads True, but that's a world different than thinking that your data will be used to train genAI. > In fact posting anything in HN is a sure shot way to giving your content for AI training. Indeed so, but HN seems to be a bad habit I just can't kick. However, my comments here are the entirety of what I put up on the open web and I intentionally keep them relatively shallow. I no longer do long-form blogging or make any of my code available on the open web. However, you're right. Leaving HN is something that I need to do.

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pbhjpbhj 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>based on the ads everyone get

I'm not sure what you mean here? In context I suspect you mean 'because ads were chosen from a perspective of knowledge about you'?? But that's really opposite my experience (UK).

Ads now go hard on brainwashing. Same advert over-and-over, almost never anything I want to buy.

YouTube suggestions are pretty much inline with my previous viewing though.

My ISP has a list of every domain I connect to, my streaming providers know every video we watch, the supermarkets and credits companies know every item we buy at the shops, but still the brainwashing attempts continue for things we'd simply never buy.

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bearl 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, the average person has no idea what “ai training” even is. Should the average person have an above average iq? Yes. Could they? No. Don’t be average yourself.

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victorbjorklund 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Seriously, when YOU posted something on the Internet 20 years ago you expected it to be used by a corporation to train an AI 20 years later?

	▲	erikerikson 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		Data sourcing has been a discussion, at least in AI circles, for much longer than 20 years. So if you are asking me, I would have to say yes. I cannot speak for the original poster.