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styanax 4 days ago

> but I blame the "everything is an extension" model ...

100%. If you're not keen on self-hosting and want to use any one of the many, many public servers this becomes such a pain, and leads to the same "decision deadlock" trying to get friends to join Mastodon or Lemmy ("which one do I want? there are so many, how do I know if it's good"). Because this is a thing:

    https://compliance.conversations.im/
"Hmmm, does xyz.com support XEP-1234 for message archiving?" or whatever it is; there's a real uphill social battle unless you make those choices for your friends to get started. While Signal is not perfect, it's easy onboarding without confusing XEP which-server choices for the average human. $0.02 I struggle to get people on Signal as it is.

Edit: found it, it's XEP-0313 and only 92% of public servers support it. Only 86% support Push Notifications, 94% OMEMO. One can argue server operators have disabled them but it points back to decision deadlock.

zaik 3 days ago | parent [-]

There is also Quicksy.im which offers Signal style onboarding and contact discovery but you also get a routable XMPP address.

styanax 2 days ago | parent [-]

95% XEP feature coverage. https://compliance.conversations.im/server/Quicksy.im/

zaik a day ago | parent [-]

Quicksy is run by the same guy who developed Conversations and this compliance test btw. It will work for its target audience. If you know what a XEP is, you don't need Quicksy.