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| ▲ | tasty_freeze 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| David Chalmers coined the phrase "the hard problem" of consciousness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness |
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| ▲ | groestl 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > why do we experience anything? Because the Essence that is the arrangement of molecules replicates onto other molecules, and it is more effective at replicating when it dedicates some of it's molecules to perceive and model it's own existence, in order to run experiments on it. That way it's more likely to find a behavior for the rest of the molecules to successfully replicate. So the molecules experience themselves, and the experience becomes more intense the more advanced the experiments are that can be run on the model. |
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| ▲ | phantompeace 3 days ago | parent [-] | | What is the Essence? In my head I picture movement or electrical fields propagating from some sort of proto cell like structure, but the more I try to “zoom” in, the more I try to find the finger that caused the ripple on the pond surface, so to speak | | |
| ▲ | groestl 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Just the arrangement, the structure, of the simpler things a system is made of, which allows a system to a) sustain and b) replicate. |
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| ▲ | rramadass 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The Hindu School of Philosophy named Samkhya/Sankhya gives you the appropriate Worldview in which your questions are answered - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samkhya There is an "Objective Reality" (mutable, evolves into many forms and includes both material/non-material concepts) and a "Witness-Consciousness" (immutable and attributeless). The latter is embodied in one form of the former which we call Sentient Living Beings. But we forget the distinction between the two and experience reality through its own subjective evolutes within the embodied being i.e. Sensory Mind, Intelligence and Ego. Various techniques/practices have been prescribed in Samkhya/Yoga/etc. to break out of this illusion and realize that one is simply pure awareness/consciousness beyond any experience. This is what is called as Kaivalya/Moksa/Nirvana i.e. a state of mind in which there is total freedom from everything to do with objective reality. See also the paper A landscape of consciousness: Toward a taxonomy of explanations and implications and previous discussion on it here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40844824 |
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| ▲ | edwardbernays 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I have been reading the yoga sutras recently and it strikes me how applicable it is. The weird stuff about attaining magical powers is... cool, but samyama and the nature of the reflective consciousness have a lot of explanatory power imo. | | |
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| ▲ | exe34 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My adopted working hypothesis is that we have to simulate what others observe/think in order to predict their behaviour and then adjust our own expectations and plans. It's a lo-fi model, because we don't have access to their internal workings - and yet it's a powerful model because it needs to predict the behaviour of very complex agents. If we then turn that powerful machinery onto ourselves, we can add all the extra information we didn't have of others. So it's a much richer, more detailed description of what's going on. It's not true that we have to be conscious - we can do things on autopilot too. The same way we can be thoughtless in treating others - we can turn the machinery off. |
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| ▲ | ccozan 3 days ago | parent [-] | | This autopilot works very well with a car and a very well known road ( like a daily commute). Recently I was thinking of a very hard problem and I cannot absolutelly recollect approx 30 minutes of the drive home. Apparently my body and some part of the brain took over the driving, while my cortex was busy with the problem reserving the short term memory completly. I snapped out of the situation when apparently a stronger break was needed, and this intrerupted my flow and popped my attention to the road. Fascinating! | | |
| ▲ | Timwi 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Apparently my body and some part of the brain took over the driving That part of the brain is the cerebellum (mostly). |
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| ▲ | cantor_S_drug 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If you want to explore the future possibilities of that line of thought, then Greg Egan's Diaspora is good read. The Minds That Left Reality | Diaspora https://youtu.be/yYwqy4bzHG4 |
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| ▲ | sweetheart 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Such an incredible book! I read it like 8 years ago and think about it often enough that it was on my mind just yesterday :) |
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| ▲ | pessimizer 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The two big problems: 1) Why is anything? and 2) Why am I here and you're over there? |
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| ▲ | gbrito 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Isn't that what death is? No experience whatsoever. Unless the universe ends up being a closed system and we have this discussion or slight variations infinitely many times. |
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| ▲ | lithocarpus 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There might be one like that out there but no one will know about it. |
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| ▲ | Cthulhu_ 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Why can't I just shut off my experience and let my body do whatever it would do without having to put in effort I do feel like most forms of leisure - watching / playing something, alcohol / drugs, sleeping - are basically this, you lose some of your consciousness and awareness in favor of what you're focusing on, or floating / free associating. |
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| ▲ | 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | CoastalCoder 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Friend, let me introduce you to the topics of philosophy, theology, and cosmology! |
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| ▲ | AlecSchueler 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| How would your body react to stimuli without experiencing it? |
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| ▲ | Dumblydorr 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Doctors use a hammer on the knee. Instinct and reflex is powerful, that’s why it exists down to amoebas and single celled organisms. A body that doesn’t have autonomic reactions isn’t going to reproduce as capably. |
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