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icedchai 5 days ago

I wasn't trying to be specific, just an opinion on what I experienced 10+ years ago. Others are welcome to work with the protocol and develop their own opinions.

hackyhacky 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

If your opinion is based on concrete experience, you could help people understand your position by sharing the specific aspects of XMPP that you dislike. An opinion without evidence or reasoning is not a valuable contribution to the conversation.

icedchai 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's been well over 10 years since I worked with, almost 15. I remember issues with keeping multiple devices in sync, syncing them back up when a user comes back online, especially with multiuser chats. I understand that is probably better now, with carbons and archiving XEPs.

In general, it felt like, XMPP has too many "optional" features. The core protocol is tiny, but everything you need and want to make it useful is optional.

tcfhgj 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

My opinion: XMPP is too little like Matrix (e.g. decentralized rooms, people as verification targets, messages (incl. e2ee ones) easily synced to all sessions) while Matrix is in a sub optimal state due to the Element/Element X client split

wink 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Don't worry, every single one of these discussion is a dozen fanboys trying to convince us that our problems back then weren't real :/

(JFTR, was a relatively happy user amongst fellow nerds & family until everyone just stopped using it, and also usage on mobile was terrible on early smart phones and fixed much too late)