▲ | i80and 5 days ago | |
Clamping down on freedoms has been the raison d'être of "conservative" parties across the world my entire life | ||
▲ | broken-kebab 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | |
Both "conservatism" and "freedoms" mean a lot of different things even within anglophone countries, not to mention the obvious fact that political actors of any color never strictly follow their foundational ideology. This makes me believe that speaking for the whole world is a bit too daring, and your statement is purely emotional. | ||
▲ | permo-w 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
this is still absolutely true, but there have been some rumblings of change in recent years. "left wing" values have partially shifted from trying to provide equal freedoms for everyone, to trying to provide freedoms for perceived-as marginalised groups, often at the expense of freedoms for lesser marginalised groups. if you're part of a lesser marginalised group and you don't subscribe to that particular ideology, this is going to feel very much the same as having your freedoms clamped down upon, and conservatives have pounced upon that as a stick to beat their enemies with, and to be fair, have come some way themselves wrt to gay rights and perhaps drug prohibition and some other things. taking a step back though, conservatives, particularly in the UK, are by no means libertarians, and in the UK essentially sired the "left wing" values that they hate so much. when did the revolution start? 2010-15ish? | ||
▲ | soraminazuki 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |
Conservatives clamping down on freedoms is only half of the story. They proclaim to be the strongest defender of freedom while they're at it. |