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strictnein 5 days ago

The API is far more expensive. For Opus 4 it's almost priced in a way that says "don't use this".

chomp 5 days ago | parent [-]

That’s not what the parent commenter asked though, they wanted a price for not being concerned about limits. The API pricing is that.

johnpaulkiser 5 days ago | parent [-]

I doubts thats what they want. They want a static fixed price, $5k a month for example and never have to think about it.

qeternity 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Take the API and assume 24/7 usage (or whatever working hours are). That’s your fixed cost.

It’s more likely that this sum is higher than they want. So really it’s not about predictability.

paxys 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Even if you used the API 24x7 for a single session (no parallel requests) I doubt you'd be able to hit $5k/mo in usage for Claude 4 Sonnet.

camgunz 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The way these work is they're net profitable given all users, so you have to recategorize users in one of two ways:

- a user subsidizing other users

- a user subsidized by other users

I don't know what OP prefers, but given that people are saying "woof, API pricing too expensive", it sounds like the latter.

The problem, of course, is the provider has to find a market where the one sustains the other. Are there enough users who would pay > $200/mo without getting their money's worth in order to subsidize users paying the same rate, but using more than the average? I think the non-existence of a higher-tier plan says there probably isn't, but I don't want to give too much credence to markets, economics, etc.