If 95% of users are under the limit then it isn't a "fake" plan.

Dylan16807 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

That really depends. Like, if Opus can't make it through a full work week then at least for Opus the unlimited is pretty darn fake even if 95% of people are under that.

I'm reminded of online storage plans with various levels of "unlimited" messaging around them that can't even hold a single medium to large hard drive of data. Very few users hit that, most of whom don't even have a hard drive they regularly use, but it means they shouldn't be going anywhere near the word "unlimited".

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		They never advertised "unlimited", just higher limits
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tough 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

fake for 5% of users.

will they refund me my sub?

when I subbed It was unlimited, they've rugged the terms twice already since then in less than a month

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paxys 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Starting August 28

Read the announcement. You are getting a full month's notice. If you don't like the limits, don't renew your subscription. Of course that doesn't help if your primary goal is to be an online outrage culture warrior.

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geodel 5 days ago | parent [-]

True. If it were easy to pirate these warriors would be claiming policy change as reason to pirate.

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Aurornis 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> when I subbed It was unlimited,

Where did you see unlimited usage? The Max plan was always advertised as higher limits, not unlimited usage.

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Tokumei-no-hito 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

you were rugged? you sincerely expected you could run parallel opus agents 24/7 for $200/mo? who did the rugging here? did it occur to you that paying $7/day for a 24/7 team of dedicated senior engineers, roughly being paid 30 cents an hour, was not sustainable?

yes it was unlimited. so is the public water fountain. but if you show up and hold the button down to run nonstop while chanting "it says unlimited free water doesn't it??" you must expect that it will no longer be unlimited.

we went from reasonably unlimited, which 95% of users enjoyed, respected and recognized was subsidized, to no unlimited anymore because 5% wanted to abuse it. now you can scream about being rugged, just like you did for cursor, and jump to the next subsidized provider that you can abuse until there's none left. you do realize that every time "unlimited" gets abused it raises the standard of limits and pricing across the board until it becomes normalized. this was going to happen anyways on a longer timeframe where providers could optimize inference and models over time so the change wasn't so shocking, but abuse accelerated it.