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some_random 5 days ago

This is an interesting discussion intellectually but it ignores the reality of cybersecurity. Yes I agree that AI tools best fit the red team role HOWEVER the reality is that the place that needs the most help is on the blue team and indeed this is where we see the biggest uplift from AI tools. To extend the "defend a house" metaphor, the previous state of security tooling was that an alert would be sent to the SOC every time any motion was detected on the cameras, leading to alert fatigue and increasing the time between a true positive alert being fired and it being escalated. Now add some CV in which tries to categorize those motion detection alerts into a few buckets, "person spotted", "car pulled up", "branch moved", "cat came home", etc and suddenly you go from having a thousand alerts to review a day to fifty.

bgwalter 5 days ago | parent [-]

Tao's blue team stands for generative "AI", the red team stands for critical/auditing "AI".

I have not seen any independent claim that generative "AI" makes programs safer or that generating supervising features as you suggest works.

For auditing "AI" I have seen one claim (not independent or using a public methodology) that auditing "AI" rakes in bug bounties.