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sugarpimpdorsey 5 days ago

Do you think we should have strong legal protections for people who go around your neighborhood trying unlocked car doors and opening front doors (with a backpack full of burglary tools) and when confronted claim they're uh doing it for your security?

xboxnolifes 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The great thing about analogies is that they're just analogies. We can have different laws for different things. Cybersecurity vs physical security.

sugarpimpdorsey 5 days ago | parent [-]

Hey your front door was unlocked where is my bug bounty?

Some people still live in places where you can leave your doors unlocked and not worry.

Leave it to the tech industry to bring Internet of Shit locks to your doorstep.

Would you be upset if in the course of their unsolicited work, these white/grey hats found your wife's nudes in the digital equivalent of kicking over a rock? Full legal protection of course.

Ignore if they kept a copy for themselves for later use, they promised to delete them <wink>.

speff 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

If everyone in the world is able to check if my door is locked and enter if not, yes I will give a bounty to someone who politely tells me that it's unlocked. Cybersecurity vulns are in a different class of exploitability from physical vulns.

user_7832 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Hey your front door was unlocked where is my bug bounty?

If you own a property where a million people live, that might not be a bad idea at all.

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Buttons840 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's a failed analogy I won't entertain.

You're trying to say companies should have sole responsibility over their systems. I say, let them have sole legal and financial liability as well then.

tempnew 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We do? People can go into any neighborhood they want. They can’t break laws, but the law allows them to walk around and look for open windows, knock on front doors, take photos, scan WiFi bssid, note cars and license plate info, etc…

The crime here is the tech. The companies aren’t to blame. Programmers and tech companies are. If there was no internet or “tech industry” we’d all be so much better off it’s painful to even contemplate.

Sytten 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

That comment came straight from the 2001. Seriously the world has moved on from hackers == bad, but the legislation has not and it is time it changes.

sugarpimpdorsey 5 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, the world has changed, infosec has morphed from a niche industry with few experts, to a full-on grift where anyone that jiggles your door handle feels they are owed something in return. "Get your degree in cybersecurity" has become the 2025 equivalent of TV/VCR repair.