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klysm 6 days ago

I don't understand this perspective. Dumb primitives that are secure is _exactly_ how you build secure system!

remram 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

You could describe this same project as "a smart pipe that punches through NATs & stays connected (...)" and it wouldn't be any more surprising or inaccurate than the current description. So maybe it is not that descriptive.

amelius 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> ... that are secure ...

That's a huge assumption I wouldn't make after reading "dumb".

And from the article:

> Easy, direct connections that punch through NATs & stay connected as network conditions change.

This sounds more like a pipe that is trying to be smart. According to your principle, not something to build a secure system with.